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Offline MH

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Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« on: November 15, 2017, 05:08:13 am »
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/14/africa/zimbabwe-military-chief-treasonable-conduct/index.html

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"What the Zimbabwe Defense Forces is doing is to pacify a degenerating political, social and economic situation in our country, which if not addressed may result in a violent conflict," he said. He urged the public to remain calm but "limit unnecessary movement."

Old dictator going down.  I don't know much about this situation, reaching out to others who do.

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Re: Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2017, 07:30:03 am »
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/14/africa/zimbabwe-military-chief-treasonable-conduct/index.html

Old dictator going down.  I don't know much about this situation, reaching out to others who do.

Apparently Mugabe's wife was grooming herself to take over the position. So maybe the people got sick of 45 years of pillaging the nation for their extravagant lifestyle. Regardless, it will be turmoil for some time.

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Re: Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2017, 11:40:04 am »
Hard to imagine anyone could be worse than Mugabe, who left Zimbabweans longing for the days of apartheid and white rule. At least they got to eat then.

Clearly factions within his party didn't take kindly to be being pushed aside by his trophy wife as Mugabe nears his well-deserved death.
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Re: Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2017, 03:44:08 pm »
Hard to imagine anyone could be worse than Mugabe, who left Zimbabweans longing for the days of apartheid and white rule. At least they got to eat then.

Clearly factions within his party didn't take kindly to be being pushed aside by his trophy wife as Mugabe nears his well-deserved death.

The guy is 94 years old too .. I mean they could wait it out until he dies .. but who knows.

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2017, 04:35:16 pm »
The guy is 94 years old too .. I mean they could wait it out until he dies .. but who knows.

You're suggesting showing compassion for this murderer? Go ask the people who have suffered so much under his reign.

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Re: Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2017, 05:24:13 pm »
So that's like the 500th military coup in post-WWII Africa.  Same old thang.
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Re: Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2017, 05:44:08 pm »
Do we agree that it's generally getting better there ?

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Re: Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2017, 06:09:16 pm »
Do we agree that it's generally getting better there ?

Where? Zimbabwe? Hard to imagine it getting worse. Africa? No sign of improvement that I can see.

Edited to add... well, maybe it can get worse...
The man believed to be behind the coup in Zimbabwe is the country's recently sacked vice president, Emmerson Mnangagwa - also known as 'The Crocodile'.
Mnangagwa, 75, is a notorious and much-feared figure in Zimbabwe, having led a vicious crackdown on opponents in the 1980s with the help of the dreaded North Korean-trained Fifth Army brigade. Thousands of civilians were killed during the Gukurahundi campaign, but Mnangagwa has always denied involvement.
His reputation for cruelty is so legendary that he was one of the few leaders of Zimbabwe known to drive around the country without security.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5084379/Deposed-Zimbabwe-VP-75-London-educated-ex-spymaster.html#ixzz4yWsVqwWE
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Re: Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2017, 07:34:16 pm »
Hard to imagine anyone could be worse than Mugabe, who left Zimbabweans longing for the days of apartheid and white rule. At least they got to eat then.

Clearly factions within his party didn't take kindly to be being pushed aside by his trophy wife as Mugabe nears his well-deserved death.

Granted, whites were by far the biggest beneficiaries but Rhodesia was one of the most prosperous countries in Africa.
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Re: Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 08:41:43 am »
You're suggesting showing compassion for this murderer? Go ask the people who have suffered so much under his reign.

I guess your sarcasm detector is off some.  But I wonder why there was no intervention from outside superpowers that like to pound nations into the ground for being a brutal dictatorship..

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2017, 09:23:50 am »
"If a man in camouflage is on your TV saying 'This is not a coup', it's probably a coup." 
 -guy on the radio just now.  It's an interview with a Zimbabwe opposition politician who is living here in the Kim City/Lost Lake region.  Pastor, psychiatric nurse, and presidential candidate. Interesting resume.

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Re: Military Takeover in Zimbabwe
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2017, 01:09:30 pm »
The guy who took over from Mugabe, was his henchman. He orchestrated mass killings for Mugabe. He was the military's man who kept an eye on Mugabe. The army was waiting for Mugabe to die. The only reason they pulled the plug is because Mugabe got rid of this now President in favour of  his wife. Had he kept his military stooge in place, there would have been no coups. The new President ids a mass murderer and a hand picked puppet from the military.

Right now 90% of Zimbabwe is unemployed and the little money Zimbabwians have is meaningless. It has no value. Their farming system collapsed over 15 years ago when Mugabe placed people he believed supported him on the farms. They had no clue how to farm and the large farms of course ceased operating and the land was no longer toiled. In fact some of it has been dug up and burned.

We have a country with the actual physical capacity to feed all of Africa with all its valuable vegetable and fruitbearing land wasted. Mugabe killed anyone who could read. He  sent his henchman through villages killing off the doctors,  teachers, anyone who read deliberately to prevent people questioning him.

This is a land of mass extermination. This is a man Who Pierre Trudeau called a deep personal friend and was welcomed all over the world as a Nelson Mandela like figure. In retrospect Ian Smith the then Rhodesian Prime Minister he forced out of office portrayed by the world as an evil bigot looks a lot different today when one listens back at his warnings about Mugabe.

Its a tragic and reoccuring story of yet another corrupt African tyrant destroying a country. I want to hear all the trendy leftists deny they touted this man as a saviour and the West is to blame for what he did.
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