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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2017, 08:19:46 am »
I think you haven't been reading my posts if you think I don't object to tarring with same brushing.  Although it is true I like to argue, and I prefer to take a contradictory position to lefties.  That's difficult, given my views generally, but I tough it out.  I always assume that the people who would tar an entire group with the same brush actually know they are wrong. 
Do they?  I don't even think they're aware that that is what they are doing. 

Fear is just a figure of speech when used in that way.  They don't want to upset certain people.  I don't think they are scared of it.  They actually really just don't want to. 
I'd say it's context.

When they refuse to acknowledge something, it's usually due to bigotry and stubbornness.  The sort of people who actually want you to believe the burka is a choice.
C says "Ban the burka!" - and give no thought to the unintended consequences of such an action ... such as limiting women who wear it (by choice or not) from going to school, going to work, going to a store.
L says "It is a choice for some; removing choice is not the answer because it reduces the freedom of the people you say you are trying to save".   

I've yet to have a ban-the-burka-type person explain just how banning the burka actually *helps* a woman who isn't allowed to leave the house burka-less.  It seems the most important thing to some people is that they not be subjected to the sight of a woman in a burka!  Out of sight, out of mind.  Out of sight, the problem no longer exists.   

  That their feminism doesn't give them the right to criticise another culture.  Those who think letting an actual Muslim speak about Islam is a mistake, so ban her, if she isn't going to toe the line. 
This I haven't seen, so cannot comment on it.  I see the opposite, actually:  unless one is willing to vilify Muslims and Islam, one is 'supporting fgm, supporting child-marriage and pedophilia, supporting gay-killing' etc. 

The people who think that terrorism is okay until it kills more people than lightning.
You will need to check your comprehension skills.   Nobody thinks terrorism is "ok", but fear-of-other makes people do things like shoot someone because they look like they are Muslim.   Given that this fear is stoked by certain groups and certain politicians, despite the reality of actually being injured or killed by a Muslim terrorist, sometimes the more rational among us think pointing out that other things are much more likely to kill you - such as lightning - might help.   

Of course, we should know that an irrational fear doesn't respond to rationality; indeed, they conclude something stupid like "oh they think terrorism is ok because more people die from lightning strikes".