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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2017, 04:01:43 pm »
It is said? By whom?

Historians, based on the written accounts of his prisoners and opponents.

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2017, 07:10:52 pm »
Ever been to Bangladesh, Qatar, the UAE, Jordan, Kosovo, Egypt? Those are only the ones I have been in, there are of course others. Ever heard of Benazir Bhutto? A little travel can open one's eyes.

She was related to an important political leader, and her party had her take over for him because of her name and in spite of her gender.
You think of these countries as moderate, do you? There are gay bars there and women have the same rights as men and infidels have the same rights as Muslims?

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2017, 07:11:23 pm »
Historians, based on the written accounts of his prisoners and opponents.

His prisoners? Even the ones he burned to death?

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2017, 07:35:24 pm »
I'd like to hear about these progressive Muslim countries...
No you wouldn't. Who are you kidding. You've been told countless times about it and it means nothing to you.

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2017, 07:47:41 pm »
His prisoners? Even the ones he burned to death?

Third Crusade.  He changed at that point.

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2017, 09:30:20 pm »
She was related to an important political leader, and her party had her take over for him because of her name and in spite of her gender.
You think of these countries as moderate, do you? There are gay bars there and women have the same rights as men and infidels have the same rights as Muslims?
I don't know about your gay bars as they are not something I would seek out no matter what country I was in. And that is nothing against gays,  it's just that I prefer ladies. And yes they have a ways to go but I can pretty much deduce from your attitude that you haven't had the benefit of the travel I have which was quite informative. And with regard to women, I worked next to women in Iran in the airline business and they worked hard, partied just as hard, and were stunningly beautiful. Don't beklieve everything Breitbart tells you.

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2017, 09:58:30 pm »
it's just that I prefer ladies
I'm quite partial to the lasses myself

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2017, 10:15:13 pm »
I'm quite partial to the lasses myself
If you ever get to Kish Island you'll see some fine examples.

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2017, 06:31:50 pm »
No you wouldn't. Who are you kidding. You've been told countless times about it and it means nothing to you.

Maybe because my standard of what a 'progressive' state is doesn't include the kind of laws and values prevalent in Muslim states.
Neither does yours, but you're being very elastic in your interpretation of the word.

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2017, 06:34:18 pm »
Third Crusade.  He changed at that point.

No, sorry, those weren't Christians he burned. Saladin succeeded in uniting the many different nations/warlords/tribes of the area to confront the Christians, but he didn't do it all by sweet talk and gentle smiles any more than Mohamed dd. His goal was expanding Islam, and all Islam stood for. And the rules of war under Islam are fairly clear in being able to rape/enslave enemy women and behead enemy men.

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2017, 06:37:29 pm »
And yes they have a ways to go but I can pretty much deduce from your attitude that you haven't had the benefit of the travel I have which was quite informative

I don't really understand that kind of an argument. You can see I'm judgmental as hell. I'm quite judgmental about everything I see HERE. Why in the hell would you think I wouldn't be just as judgmental about what I see elsewhere?

I don't have to go to Kandahar to know Afghanistan is a shithole filled with some of the world's most primitive people. Are there some nice people there? There are nice people everywhere, but that's not going to be relevant to my judgement of the place.

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2017, 07:40:47 pm »
Ever been to Bangladesh, Qatar, the UAE, Jordan, Kosovo, Egypt? Those are only the ones I have been in, there are of course others. Ever heard of Benazir Bhutto? A little travel can open one's eyes.

I would visit Bangladesh, but I wouldn't blog there.  I probably wouldn't in some of the other places you mentioned, either.
Time for bed said Zebedee...

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2017, 11:25:46 pm »
I don't really understand that kind of an argument. You can see I'm judgmental as hell. I'm quite judgmental about everything I see HERE. Why in the hell would you think I wouldn't be just as judgmental about what I see elsewhere?

I don't have to go to Kandahar to know Afghanistan is a shithole filled with some of the world's most primitive people. Are there some nice people there? There are nice people everywhere, but that's not going to be relevant to my judgement of the place.
Ignorance is bliss as the saying goes. And it leads to tarring one particular race/color with the same brush. But you are entitled to your "judgement"
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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2017, 12:30:00 pm »
Ignorance is bliss as the saying goes. And it leads to tarring one particular race/color with the same brush. But you are entitled to your "judgement"

And some see it as noble to not judge however obvious the judgement should be, and to make excuses for the poor behaviour of people and nations based strictly on them not being White. I personally don't understand that sort of sentiment. It seems patronizing and priggish.

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Re: The Islamic World
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2017, 12:37:49 pm »
And some see it as noble to not judge however obvious the judgement should be, and to make excuses for the poor behaviour of people and nations based strictly on them not being White. I personally don't understand that sort of sentiment. It seems patronizing and priggish.
Judging due to race, color,religion seems a lot worse than "priggish"