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I said WEST Jerusalem.

You accused the Palestinians of wanting to declare ALL of Jerusalem as their capitol, when in fact it's your buddy Trump who is allowing Israel to claim it all. so you seem to have it backwards.
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One wonders how long this is going to continue, 70 years and counting. Anyone for another 70 or should they just come to an agreement and get on with life? Unfortunately it looks like another 70 is more likely.
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Offline SirJohn

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You accused the Palestinians of wanting to declare ALL of Jerusalem as their capitol, when in fact it's your buddy Trump who is allowing Israel to claim it all. so you seem to have it backwards.

The Palestinians THEMSELVES say that All of Jerusalem is to be their capital.

Haniya stressed the fact that the Palestinians see Jerusalem as united and the capital of their future state.
"Jerusalem, all of Jerusalem, is ours," he said
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/hamas-leader-jerusalem-decision-war-declaration-171207083427072.html

Your vast ignorance about everything even peripherally related with the middle east is on display yet again.

As far as Trump goes, I would say my condemnation of him has been as thorough, as knowledgeable and insightful as anyone's, and certainly far moreso than your adolescent virtue signaling  as you rub your flaccid thoughtlessness up against your counterparts on the other site.
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Not really, Arabs had been living in the Holy Land for more than a millennium, the Russians had only been in Hungary, Czechoslovakia and East Germany for just over 40 years. These countries also had their own governments even though they tied to the Soviet Union, which by the way, no longer exists.

Arabs? Do you mean Beduins or do you mean Muslims? Do you know what an Arab is. Or better still are you suggesting the Arabs of the Middle East would only be Muslim and not Jews and Christians as well? Get back to me.
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Nobody but the Palestinians seems to seriously dispute that the West Jerusalem is Israeli, so if the Israelis want foreign embassies to locate in West Jerusalem how is this an issue? I know the Palestinian leadership continues to rabble rouse by proclaiming all of Jerusalem as soon to be the capital of Palestine but that's simply nonsensical.

Technically the entire Arab League does as this is part and parcel of the issue of rejecting the notion of a Jewish state of Israel. Its about Islam the religion which at the present time is interpreted by all Muslim nations of the Middle East as prohibiting any non Muslim from owning land anywhere in the world not just the Middle East.

Its also compounded by the spineless UN which placates this religious bigotry to placate its oil supplies.
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Jerusalem was the central religious center of ancient Israel. If Israel gives way on Jerusalem the intellectual underpinnings of the entire state will be challenged.
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Jerusalem was the central religious center of ancient Israel. If Israel gives way on Jerusalem the intellectual underpinnings of the entire state will be challenged.

Other peoples besides Jews live in Jerusalem and have for over a millennium, they've helped build it and have history within it, and have claim to it also.  Israel doesn't have full claim to Jerusalem just as it doesn't have full claim to all of Israel/Gaza/West Bank etc.  The intellectual underpinnings of the state of Israel (as it is now border-wise) is already challenged.
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Arabs? Do you mean Beduins or do you mean Muslims? Do you know what an Arab is. Or better still are you suggesting the Arabs of the Middle East would only be Muslim and not Jews and Christians as well? Get back to me.

The Rashidun Caliphate goes back to the 7th century so yes Arabs, and after them Byzantines and Ottomans. So yes Arabs, Christians and Turks for a millennium plus around 400 years. Greeks and Romans to but who's counting.
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