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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Russia vs Ukraine war
« on: February 23, 2022, 10:43:37 pm »
It has begun.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2022, 02:44:35 am »
It has begun.

Yeah, I thought it was funny---or at least it would be funny if it weren't so damned serious---how they claim they're intervening to protect the two separatist regions in the east of the country, yet they've attacked targets far away from Ukraine's eastern border or far from where the Russians claim to be "protecting" the inhabitants.

Putin's warning to the west was particularly striking. He stopped short of threatening to nuke the US or NATO allies in the event of intervention.

I wonder how long before it's over? I give Ukraine's sovereignty---such as it is---another 72 hours.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2022, 08:11:33 am »
Is it just me or is this, on the face of it, a disastrous move for Russia ? 

 
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2022, 09:14:30 am »
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Is it just me or is this, on the face of it, a disastrous move for Russia ?

Certainly risky. It could become another Afghanistan for them. It also depends on how serious the rest of the world is about sanctions.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2022, 09:18:14 am »
NATO will have no choice but to build up forces in Western Europe again. The Cold War is back.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2022, 09:33:24 am »
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Certainly risky. It could become another Afghanistan for them. It also depends on how serious the rest of the world is about sanctions.
I wonder what this is doing to the business of laundering oligarch money coming out of Russia?  It could be better for for all we know.

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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2022, 10:10:04 am »
I wonder what this is doing to the business of laundering oligarch money coming out of Russia?  It could be better for for all we know.

It's about Russia getting its empire back and Putin becoming Vladimir the First.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2022, 11:15:17 am »
World response has been weak-kneed.

Russia should not be allowed to participate or host any world events.
Russians should have their assets frozen abroad and be banned from doing any business. 

So far, the sanctions have been fairly soft. 

The toughest stance has been an F1 driver who says he is boycotting the race in Russia.  Good on him.

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2022, 11:19:32 am »
If only libtards hadn't severely restricted our oil and gas industry here and in the United States.  We could supply enough energy so that North America and all of Europe could bypass all of Russia's energy exports.  Heckuva job libtards.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2022, 11:31:47 am »
If only libtards hadn't severely restricted our oil and gas industry here and in the United States.  We could supply enough energy so that North America and all of Europe could bypass all of Russia's energy exports.  Heckuva job libtards.

Do you really think your use of insulting labels makes some kind of argument?

That said, Canada could be making a killing if we could export other than to the US but instead, other countries will be getting richer.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2022, 11:36:52 am »
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2022, 12:15:22 pm »
Wonder how he will like his Canadian assets frozen.

I don’t trust the world’s governments to take much solid action against Russia. 
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2022, 12:21:28 pm »
Wonder how he will like his Canadian assets frozen.
You don’t think he’s already anticipated this?  Considering the soaring price of oil and gas, and that Europe depends on 40% of it from Russia, I don’t think he cares much about it short term.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2022, 12:43:20 pm »
You don’t think he’s already anticipated this?  Considering the soaring price of oil and gas, and that Europe depends on 40% of it from Russia, I don’t think he cares much about it short term.

The UK has announced a complete crackdown on Russian assets including possible exclusion from the SWIFT banking network. Th oligarchs will not be happy.

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Without access to SWIFT, Russia and its financial institutions would be effectively cut off from most international business transactions. For example, Russia would be unable to secure profits from international sales of its oil and gas production — deals that comprise more than 40% of the country’s revenue.

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