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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #480 on: January 23, 2023, 04:12:49 pm »
No, but if you say something, you can bet you read it on a blog, likely of Russian influence, tailored to exploit your intellectual weakness and overly emotional anger.

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« Reply #481 on: January 23, 2023, 06:19:40 pm »
No, but if you say something, you can bet you read it on a blog, likely of Russian influence, tailored to exploit your intellectual weakness and overly emotional anger.
Not really, I just listened to Obama’s secretary of defence, who predicted Russia’s invasion back in 2016.  Because they view NATO expansion as an existential threat.  They also viewed the west’s orchestrated coup of the pro Russian Ukrainian government in 2014 the same way.  Several things can be correct at the same time.  Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine.  But NATO was wrong to threaten expansion to Russia’s border. 

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« Reply #482 on: January 24, 2023, 02:42:54 am »
Not really, I just listened to Obama’s secretary of defence, who predicted Russia’s invasion back in 2016.  Because they view NATO expansion as an existential threat.  They also viewed the west’s orchestrated coup of the pro Russian Ukrainian government in 2014 the same way.  Several things can be correct at the same time.  Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine.  But NATO was wrong to threaten expansion to Russia’s border.

1. Ukraine had no intention of joining NATO back in the 2014.

2. Russia violated an agreement from 1996, where Ukraine agreed to rid itself of all nuclear weapons, and give them to Russia, in return Russia promised to always respect Ukrainian sovereignty, and the post 1991 borders of Ukraine.

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« Reply #483 on: January 24, 2023, 02:44:36 am »
If the Kremlin says that the sky is blue, is that a “Kremlin talking point”?  Are we to ignore truth because it sides with somebody we don’t like?  Of course not.  Stop being ridiculous.

Whatever you say, Tucker Carlson.

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« Reply #484 on: January 24, 2023, 06:13:52 am »
.  But NATO was wrong to threaten expansion to Russia’s border.
Spoken like a true retard.

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« Reply #485 on: January 24, 2023, 09:16:07 am »
Spoken like a true retard.
Ditto.  Especially one that has no clue of recent history.  Your only option is to call people names! 😂
Everything I said is FACT.  You’re all a bunch of McCarthyist puppets controlled by the mainstream media.  They feed you the narrative, and you run with it like it’s religious dogma.  You’ve learned nothing from the recent past.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #486 on: January 24, 2023, 03:17:46 pm »
 
Not really, I just listened to Obama’s secretary of defence, who predicted Russia’s invasion back in 2016.  Because they view NATO expansion as an existential threat.  They also viewed the west’s orchestrated coup of the pro Russian Ukrainian government in 2014 the same way.  Several things can be correct at the same time.  Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine.  But NATO was wrong to threaten expansion to Russia’s border. 

Russia's neighbors joined NATO because they felt threatened by Russia.  Russia's done nothing but validate their fears over the last 20 years.  There is nothing existentially threatening about Ukraine wanting to free themselves of Russian influence given their truly horrible history under the Russian yoke and the utter hopelessness that subservience to Russia promises.  The only thing that NATO expansion threatens existentially is Vladimir Putin's delusions of Empire.  "Muh sphere of influence" is a shitty argument when nobody within it wants to be.   


Ditto.  Especially one that has no clue of recent history.  Your only option is to call people names! 😂
Everything I said is FACT.  You’re all a bunch of McCarthyist puppets controlled by the mainstream media.  They feed you the narrative, and you run with it like it’s religious dogma.  You’ve learned nothing from the recent past.

You don't actually know anything about Russian or Ukrainian history.  This is very, very clear. 


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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #487 on: January 29, 2023, 10:29:24 am »
Glad to see Israel **** **** up in Iran with the drone strikes.  It's Karma for getting involved in the Ukraine situation by providing Russia drones to strike cities in Ukraine.

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« Reply #488 on: January 29, 2023, 11:07:48 am »
Glad to see Israel **** **** up in Iran with the drone strikes.  It's Karma for getting involved in the Ukraine situation by providing Russia drones to strike cities in Ukraine.
It’s good to see that world war 3 is well on its way! 😂

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #489 on: January 29, 2023, 11:12:32 am »
If Congresswoman Omar criticized Israel's attack you would call her anti-Semitic.

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« Reply #490 on: January 29, 2023, 11:16:49 am »
If Congresswoman Omar criticized Israel's attack you would call her anti-Semitic.
Yes, it’s interesting that you think people should have the right to criticize Israel without being anti-semitic.  Why don’t you apply that same logic to Ukraine, or vaccines?  Answer.  Because you’re a hypocrite, McCarthyite.  You only approve of nuance when it suits you, and when it supports your side.  You have no interest in applying that same standard to anything else, even though everything else has nuance too.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #491 on: January 29, 2023, 11:34:50 am »
You are free to praise Russia but don't pretend it isn't obvious you're just repeating Russian talking points, which have no nuance at all
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« Reply #492 on: January 29, 2023, 11:51:55 am »
You are free to praise Russia but don't pretend it isn't obvious you're just repeating Russian talking points, which have no nuance at all
Then you’re free to praise anti-semites.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #493 on: January 29, 2023, 11:54:44 am »
You're the one praising MTG and her space laser theory. How come that "trope" is, as George Santos would signal, A-OK? 👌

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« Reply #494 on: January 29, 2023, 12:42:09 pm »
You're the one praising MTG and her space laser theory. How come that "trope" is, as George Santos would signal, A-OK? 👌
I’m just using your standard.  What’s wrong, you don’t like the taste of your own medicine? 😂