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Offline wilber

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #465 on: December 13, 2022, 10:33:39 pm »
McCarthy was a Republican.
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« Reply #466 on: December 14, 2022, 06:27:52 am »
Quote from: wilber on December 13, 2022, 10:33:39 pm
McCarthy was a Republican.
Yep.  And now it’s Democrats.
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« Reply #467 on: December 14, 2022, 07:46:47 am »
Yes, it's getting so you can't collude with the enemy without getting some critical online feedback. Have they no sense of decency?
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« Reply #468 on: December 14, 2022, 07:58:31 am »
Quote from: Bubbermiley on December 14, 2022, 07:46:47 am
Yes, it's getting so you can't collude with the enemy without getting some critical online feedback. Have they no sense of decency?
Nonsense.  Wanting real oversight of Ukraine funding isn’t collusion with anyone.  It’s funny to see you evolve into shills for big pharma and now the military industrial complex.  Defence contractors love puppets like you.
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« Reply #469 on: December 14, 2022, 09:22:39 am »
You weren't talking about oversight. You were repeating the Putin talking point that Ukraine was attacking Russian churches.
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« Reply #470 on: December 14, 2022, 09:30:04 am »
Quote from: Bubbermiley on December 14, 2022, 09:22:39 am
You weren't talking about oversight. You were repeating the Putin talking point that Ukraine was attacking Russian churches.
They have.  They also have actual nazis as part of their military.  Those are facts.  I’m sorry they bother you, but stating facts isn’t being pro-Putin, it’s being pro-truth.
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« Reply #471 on: December 14, 2022, 09:45:14 am »
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They have. They also have actual nazis as part of their military. Those are facts.  I’m sorry they bother you, but stating facts isn’t being pro-Putin, it’s being pro-truth.

Wait till you hear about the police and military literally everywhere else, it will blow your peanut-sized mind.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #472 on: December 14, 2022, 11:03:29 am »
Quote from: Black Dog on December 14, 2022, 09:45:14 am
Wait till you hear about the police and military literally everywhere else, it will blow your peanut-sized mind.
And we allied with Stalin when we , like the Ukraine is now, were fighting for our survival. If Russia wins in the Ukraine, NATO will be next. That would be bad for everyone.
And, if Russia wins in the Ukraine, they will repeat the Holodomor.
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« Reply #473 on: December 22, 2022, 03:07:01 pm »
Just remember, the same people calling anyone questioning anything about Ukraine funding, escalation, etc, are the exact same people that called anyone questioning Iraq unpatriotic.  Except now, you’re a “Russian supporter.”
Some here haven’t learned anything from history.

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« Reply #474 on: December 22, 2022, 03:12:39 pm »
Quote from: Holiday Shady on December 22, 2022, 03:07:01 pm
Just remember, the same people calling anyone questioning anything about Ukraine funding, escalation, etc, are the exact same people that called anyone questioning Iraq unpatriotic.  Except now, you’re a “Russian supporter.”
Some here haven’t learned anything from history.

You uncritically parroted the right wing media's line on Iraq and now you're uncritically parroting the right wing media's line on Ukraine, so yeah I'd say some people here haven't really learned anything.
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« Reply #475 on: December 31, 2022, 02:29:01 am »
Quote from: Holiday Shady on December 22, 2022, 03:07:01 pm
Just remember, the same people calling anyone questioning anything about Ukraine funding, escalation, etc, are the exact same people that called anyone questioning Iraq unpatriotic.  Except now, you’re a “Russian supporter.”
Some here haven’t learned anything from history.


There is a huge difference between the conflict and the Iraq occupation.  The US has not entered this war.  They are pretty much doing the exact same thing they did between 1940-41, after the Nazis attacked France and the UK- providing intelligence, weapons, and financial support to the allies.

To me, it seems that the same people who defend Russia, are the same people that would have opposed North American intervention of World War II, and blamed the Jews for their fate.

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« Reply #476 on: December 31, 2022, 05:50:46 am »
They certainly aren't the same people who said questioning the Iraq war was unpatriotic. It's amazing how the Iraq war boosters are so ashamed of their former position, they're even trying to pretend it was all their political opponents' fault.
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« Reply #477 on: December 31, 2022, 08:41:11 am »


105,000+ casualties since February 24.  To put that number in perspective, the United States lost 63,000 soldiers in Vietnam.  Keep in mind American intervention started around 1960, and the last American soldiers left the country in 1975. 

I honestly think the people who are defending Russia to the bitter end, are the same people who had great admiration for Russia as it was an example of a country that had no "woke culture." Russia was supposed to be this stronghold of alpha males, who didn't put up with special interest groups, and would annihilate anyone who tried to impose their view upon them.  The Ukraine War has shattered that.

Even Andrew Tate, a self proclaimed "Alpha Male," who berated other men for having feelings toward women, could not handle a teenager insulting him.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #478 on: January 23, 2023, 03:23:17 pm »
Quote from: Slim Shady on December 22, 2022, 03:07:01 pm
Just remember, the same people calling anyone questioning anything about Ukraine funding, escalation, etc, are the exact same people that called anyone questioning Iraq unpatriotic.  Except now, you’re a “Russian supporter.”
Some here haven’t learned anything from history.

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No, it's not the same people at all.

If you want to talk about the similarities, however, it's no mystery why the people parroting Kremlin propaganda over Ukraine are the same ones who railed against vaccine and mask mandates and still argue the election was stolen.  When you're slurping your news from anonymous blogs and garbage-newsites, Yury and Ivan are always there to amplify and echo your anxieties.   
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« Reply #479 on: January 23, 2023, 03:33:17 pm »
Quote from: Moonbox on January 23, 2023, 03:23:17 pm
No, it's not the same people at all.

If you want to talk about the similarities, however, it's no mystery why the people parroting Kremlin propaganda over Ukraine are the same ones who railed against vaccine and mask mandates and still argue the election was stolen.  When you're slurping your news from anonymous blogs and garbage-newsites, Yury and Ivan are always there to amplify and echo your anxieties.   
If the Kremlin says that the sky is blue, is that a “Kremlin talking point”?  Are we to ignore truth because it sides with somebody we don’t like?  Of course not.  Stop being ridiculous.
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