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« Reply #510 on: February 11, 2023, 12:26:14 pm »
When all is said and done, and the full extent of the atrocities committed by the Russians is revealed to the World, people who are sympathetic to Russia are going to look really bad.

History will not be kind to Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

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« Reply #511 on: February 16, 2023, 12:01:02 pm »
140,000 dead Russian soldiers.  Most of the best in the military killed. Russia has not seen this amount of losses since the Blitzkrieg.  Time for other countries to settle their beefs with Russia.

Looking at you, Poland.


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« Reply #512 on: February 16, 2023, 04:53:24 pm »
Unfortunately this conflict is going to take a bad turn for Ukraine.  This conflict is going to end up as a stalemate at best for them.  But a protracted stalemate is a disaster for them.  It’s time for America, NATO etc to start negotiating for some kind of peace agreement.
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« Reply #513 on: February 16, 2023, 05:01:04 pm »
I guess Russia must have had a terrible week if the minions are saying Ukraine must surrender now.
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« Reply #514 on: February 16, 2023, 05:19:53 pm »
I guess Russia must have had a terrible week if the minions are saying Ukraine must surrender now.
I’m not sure who’s saying surrender.  But a peace deal is necessary.  It must be so cozy for you to fight a war, and cheer for war on the couch in your living room.

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« Reply #515 on: February 16, 2023, 05:21:57 pm »
It was your side that did the invading, not mine.

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« Reply #516 on: February 16, 2023, 05:28:26 pm »
It was your side that did the invading, not mine.
My side did neither.

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« Reply #517 on: February 16, 2023, 05:39:33 pm »
I’m not sure who’s saying surrender.  But a peace deal is necessary.  It must be so cozy for you to fight a war, and cheer for war on the couch in your living room.

Here's a peace deal:

Russia withdrawals from all Ukrainian territory,  including Crimea.

Russia pays billions in reparations for all the damage they have done to civilian infrastructure.

Putin is indicted for War Crimes.

Anything short of that is pointless.
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« Reply #518 on: February 16, 2023, 05:42:33 pm »
Here's a peace deal:

Russia withdrawals from all Ukrainian territory,  including Crimea.

Russia pays billions in reparations for all the damage they have done to civilian infrastructure.

Putin is indicted for War Crimes.

Anything short of that is pointless.
#1 is a good start.  Add to this the agreement that NATO not expand to include Ukraine and we’d probably stop the war tomorrow.

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« Reply #519 on: February 16, 2023, 05:50:26 pm »
Unfortunately this conflict is going to take a bad turn for Ukraine.  This conflict is going to end up as a stalemate at best for them.  But a protracted stalemate is a disaster for them.  It’s time for America, NATO etc to start negotiating for some kind of peace agreement.

No idea where you get this misinformation from, but according to ISW (International Study of War), and various military experts, Russia is completely depleted of experienced soldiers, and military weapons.

Russians are fighting for restoration of the Russian Empire.  Ukraine is fighting for their lives. In 10 years that 5he USSR occupied Afghanistan,  they only lost 15,000 soldiers. The Russian losses are not sustainable.

Morale is low, and they launched everything at Bakhmut, and it's pretty much a stalemate and meat grinder. Russia can't win  this war. They have to pull out unconditionally,  or risk another internal coup.

Shady, you really need to research this topic.

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« Reply #520 on: February 16, 2023, 05:53:36 pm »
#1 is a good start.  Add to this the agreement that NATO not expand to include Ukraine and we’d probably stop the war tomorrow.

Russia will be lucky if their enemies don't invade them. Imagine Poland getting involved? They would crush Belarus, then destroy Russia. Or how about China walking into Siberia and annexing it? Finland can even regain their lost territory from WW2.

Strike while the iron is hot...

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« Reply #521 on: February 16, 2023, 05:56:07 pm »
No idea where you get this misinformation from, but according to ISW (International Study of War), and various military experts, Russia is completely depleted of experienced soldiers, and military weapons.

Russians are fighting for restoration of the Russian Empire.  Ukraine is fighting for their lives. In 10 years that 5he USSR occupied Afghanistan,  they only lost 15,000 soldiers. The Russian losses are not sustainable.

Morale is low, and they launched everything at Bakhmut, and it's pretty much a stalemate and meat grinder. Russia can't win  this war. They have to pull out unconditionally,  or risk another internal coup.

Shady, you really need to research this topic.
Very little of this is true.  You need to stop getting all your information from legacy media sources.  The spring is going to be a very rough time for Ukraine.  And even after that, experts expect this conflict to drag on for years.
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« Reply #522 on: February 16, 2023, 05:57:40 pm »
Russia will be lucky if their enemies don't invade them. Imagine Poland getting involved? They would crush Belarus, then destroy Russia. Or how about China walking into Siberia and annexing it? Finland can even regain their lost territory from WW2.

Strike while the iron is hot...
This kind of thought is irresponsible and with all due respect, completely insane.  Invading a nuclear power, is a very bad idea.  Especially if Putin is as crazy as people like you say he is.

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« Reply #523 on: February 16, 2023, 05:58:44 pm »
#1 is a good start.  Add to this the agreement that NATO not expand to include Ukraine and we’d probably stop the war tomorrow.
Not only is that stupid, naive BS, but it undermines the whole premise of NATO---that countries can join if they meet the conditions of being free democracies.

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« Reply #524 on: February 16, 2023, 06:41:57 pm »
Very little of this is true.  You need to stop getting all your information from legacy media sources.  The spring is going to be a very rough time for Ukraine.  And even after that, experts expect this conflict to drag on for years.

Sorry,  I'll try to watch more Tucker Carlson😂