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Offline waldo

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine war
« Reply #420 on: May 30, 2022, 12:42:58 pm »
Would it not be prudent for Ukraine to just give the Donbass and Luhansk to Russia? It appears that Russia would rather destroy these regions than let Ukraine retain them.

at the recent WEF conference, yesterday'sManKissinger called for Ukraine to cede land to Russia to {presumably} bring an end to the war. => Zelensky rips Kissinger over suggestion Ukraine cede territory to Russia

given Russia's 'annexation' of Crimea, why would... should... Ukrainians believe Putin would simply stop with the Donbas region and not eventually continue to advance on the complete regions of Luhansk & Donetsk? And, of course, Putin has designs on those southern areas that border Crimea and provide the relished "land bridge" from Crimea into Russia proper?


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« Reply #421 on: May 30, 2022, 10:22:56 pm »
Would it not be prudent for Ukraine to just give the Donbass and Luhansk to Russia? It appears that Russia would rather destroy these regions than let Ukraine retain them.

It's weird that Russia "needs" more territory, but I suspect these regions are ethically Russian anyway.

I'm not being pro-Russian here, but fighting for these regions just means a protracted war and Western resources spent on regions that'll be in Civil War for decades.

I think theyíll need to make it painful for Russia to ensure Russia is happy with only taking those regions. 
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« Reply #422 on: May 31, 2022, 12:10:20 am »
I think theyíll need to make it painful for Russia to ensure Russia is happy with only taking those regions.

This is already painful for Russia.  They've depleted their supply of modernized equipment and are reactivating outdated and badly maintained junk to send into Ukraine. They're calling up middle-age  reservists who haven't been in uniform for 20 years. Their losses in both personnel and equipment has been far beyond anything they imagined and they're completely unprepared for it.


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« Reply #423 on: June 02, 2022, 07:54:25 pm »
Apparently, itís confirmed that Putin has cancer. 

Donít be surprised if he nukes someone on his way out of this lifeÖ
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« Reply #424 on: June 02, 2022, 09:48:45 pm »
Apparently, itís confirmed that Putin has cancer. 

Donít be surprised if he nukes someone on his way out of this lifeÖ

Hopefully somebody in the new empire recognizes how badly that would go for Russia and puts him out of his misery before he gets the chance.  There are a lot of highly placed, highly privileged people in the inner circle who have a lot to lose if the new czar decides he wants to go out in a blaze of glory.

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« Reply #425 on: June 03, 2022, 09:04:45 am »
Apparently, itís confirmed that Putin has cancer. 

Donít be surprised if he nukes someone on his way out of this lifeÖ


Not to be that guy, but cite?

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« Reply #426 on: June 03, 2022, 09:30:50 am »

Not to be that guy, but cite?

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-putin-treated-cancer-april-us-intelligence-report-says-1710357

The classified U.S. report says Putin seems to have re-emerged after undergoing treatment in April for advanced cancer, three U.S. intelligence leaders who have read the reports tell Newsweek.


"advanced"

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« Reply #427 on: June 03, 2022, 10:37:32 am »
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-putin-treated-cancer-april-us-intelligence-report-says-1710357

The classified U.S. report says Putin seems to have re-emerged after undergoing treatment in April for advanced cancer, three U.S. intelligence leaders who have read the reports tell Newsweek.


"advanced"

Interesting. Crazy I missed this. How can a dying man stay in power like this?

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« Reply #428 on: June 03, 2022, 10:40:05 am »
Interesting. Crazy I missed this. How can a dying man stay in power like this?

Maybe it's also interesting how 'intelligence' reports are no longer widely reported ?

Newsweek is happy to report this but not CNN or FOX who report "rumours".

Steele Dossier, WMD impact ?
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« Reply #429 on: June 03, 2022, 02:25:41 pm »
Interesting. Crazy I missed this. How can a dying man stay in power like this?

Which dictator gives up power upon reflection of their own mortality.  Weíll be lucky if Putin dies without dropping a nuke firstÖ.
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« Reply #430 on: June 03, 2022, 05:01:18 pm »
Which dictator gives up power upon reflection of their own mortality.  Weíll be lucky if Putin dies without dropping a nuke firstÖ.

Like all dictators, he will have made many enemies. Without power, he will be a sitting duck for them.
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« Reply #431 on: July 20, 2022, 08:34:09 pm »
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-putin-treated-cancer-april-us-intelligence-report-says-1710357

The classified U.S. report says Putin seems to have re-emerged after undergoing treatment in April for advanced cancer, three U.S. intelligence leaders who have read the reports tell Newsweek.


"advanced"
Is this like WMD in Iraq?  Sorry, but fool me once.  I see this as nothing more than propaganda.
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Offline Trans Black Shady

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« Reply #432 on: July 20, 2022, 08:37:48 pm »
Itís time for a peace deal to be brokered.   The ruble is higher now than when the war started.  Sanctions are helping fuel inflation and shortages.  Russia can continue this slog for many many months and itís only going to get worse for Ukraine.
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« Reply #433 on: July 21, 2022, 07:09:36 am »
Is this like WMD in Iraq?  Sorry, but fool me once.  I see this as nothing more than propaganda.
The Republicans keep fooling you. We told you the WMD story was fake at the time but you didn't listen.

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« Reply #434 on: July 21, 2022, 09:12:43 am »
The Republicans keep fooling you. We told you the WMD story was fake at the time but you didn't listen.
Then why have you been trusting the same sources for the last 10+ years?  You digest every spoon full of propaganda they send your way.  Whether itís Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Russia, Putin has cancer, Putin paid ransoms, January 6th, etc.  You take everything they say as gospel.  Why havenít you learned anything?