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« Reply #360 on: March 17, 2022, 08:57:11 am »
But why would anyone ever believe anything you say without a citation? You're half-retarded and a shitty liar.
Why would anyone ever believe anything you say about them not being trained?  It only takes a quick google search to find out that Ukrainian pilots are trained to fly Russian Migs.  Keep making excuses for Biden.

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« Reply #361 on: March 17, 2022, 09:10:13 am »
It only takes a quick google search to find out that Ukrainian pilots are trained to fly Russian Migs.  Keep making excuses for Biden.
You want Biden to give them Russian Migs?
But I thought you were opposed to the endless wars? Why do you want to draw the U.S. into another one? Haven't you learned from your previous disasters?

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« Reply #362 on: March 17, 2022, 09:13:19 am »
You want Biden to give them Russian Migs?
But I thought you were opposed to the endless wars? Why do you want to draw the U.S. into another one? Haven't you learned from your previous disasters?
How does giving Ukraine jets drawing the U.S. into another war?  How is giving a jet different than giving anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons systems?  Did you know that the U.S. pushed planes across the Canadian border in WWII so that they could supply aircraft to Britain without getting directly involved in the war?

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« Reply #363 on: March 17, 2022, 09:18:56 am »
How does giving Ukraine jets drawing the U.S. into another war?  How is giving a jet different than giving anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons systems?  Did you know that the U.S. pushed planes across the Canadian border in WWII so that they could supply aircraft to Britain without getting directly involved in the war?
Your questions are based on the assumption you have a clue what you're talking about. You still haven't explained where Biden would be getting the Russian Migs he's supposed to give away.

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« Reply #364 on: March 17, 2022, 09:22:25 am »
Rather than rely on the foreign policy expertise of someone who is informed exclusively by Facebook memes, he's providing weapons they can actually use.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/ukraine-asks-biden-admin-armed-drones-jamming-gear-surface-air-missile-rcna20197

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« Reply #365 on: March 17, 2022, 09:42:20 am »
Your questions are based on the assumption you have a clue what you're talking about. You still haven't explained where Biden would be getting the Russian Migs he's supposed to give away.
Biden won’t authorize the transfer of the jets.  What part of that can’t you understand?  You’re grasping for excuse after excuse.  First, Ukrainian pilots can’t fly the planes.  That was false.  Next was it will drag America into the war.  That was false.  Now it’s that they’re getting drones so they’re not asking for planes anymore.  That is false. 

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« Reply #366 on: March 17, 2022, 09:55:34 am »
They have determined that would escalate the war and draw Nato in. They know more than you do because they have foreign policy experience beyond reading memes on Facebook.
If they did draw Nato in, you would be the first complaining about it. You have no credibility. All you want is to bring right-wing autocracy to the west and you will try to undermine everything until you succeed.

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« Reply #367 on: March 17, 2022, 10:02:53 am »
Biolabs in Ukraine is not propaganda, it’s fact.  Is the W.H.O. In on the propaganda as well? 😂

The propaganda is that these are bioweapon labs, which you clearly think is the case.

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« Reply #368 on: March 17, 2022, 10:09:59 am »
They have determined that would escalate the war and draw Nato in. They know more than you do because they have foreign policy experience beyond reading memes on Facebook.
If they did draw Nato in, you would be the first complaining about it. You have no credibility. All you want is to bring right-wing autocracy to the west and you will try to undermine everything until you succeed.

I really don't think it's that deep with him, he has his team and supports them and reflexively opposes anything the other team does no matter what. It's the politics-as-sports model and doesn't reflect any actual deeply held beliefs or principles on his part.

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« Reply #369 on: March 17, 2022, 10:24:23 am »
I would have believed that before Jan. 6, 2021.

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« Reply #370 on: March 17, 2022, 10:24:58 am »
They have determined that would escalate the war and draw Nato in. They know more than you do because they have foreign policy experience beyond reading memes on Facebook.
If they did draw Nato in, you would be the first complaining about it. You have no credibility. All you want is to bring right-wing autocracy to the west and you will try to undermine everything until you succeed.
They haven't determined anything.  NATO countries like Poland want to give the jets to Ukraine.  Biden is the one that won't allow it, not NATO.  Regardless, I have no idea what you're talking about when you bring up right-wing autocracy.  Get professional help, you're demented.

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« Reply #371 on: March 17, 2022, 10:27:18 am »
I really don't think it's that deep with him, he has his team and supports them and reflexively opposes anything the other team does no matter what. It's the politics-as-sports model and doesn't reflect any actual deeply held beliefs or principles on his part.
That's great projection and describes you perfectly, especially when it comes to sexualizing 5 year olds.  Maybe you can make the distinction between giving Ukraine anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons systems to use to kill Russians, but not planes.  Because Bubber still hasn't been able to other than rely on "Biden's determination" that it would "escalate". 

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« Reply #372 on: March 17, 2022, 10:33:59 am »
Because Bubber still hasn't been able to other than rely on "Biden's determination" that it would "escalate".
Can you at least cite the Facebook meme that told you it wouldn't escalate?

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« Reply #373 on: March 17, 2022, 10:37:20 am »

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« Reply #374 on: March 17, 2022, 10:41:59 am »
The fact that Republicans can fire up their base by saying the U.S. should be sending more lethal weapons to Ukraine while simultaneously voting against it is exactly why everything is as screwed up as it is. They literally weaponize the stupidity of their followers.
https://twitter.com/Skel531/status/1504290355088400384?t=YELHdUa0iqBUcE7fyg4nBA&s=19