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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3645 on: October 25, 2021, 04:33:52 pm »
Over 70% of the country has now had at least one shot now. Could have a lot to do with it. They are still having over 10 million new cases a month but with over a billion people that looks like a flat line.

The flat line I mean is number of cases, so population shouldn't have anything to do with it.  They had the same number of people when the curve was super high.

I didn't think one dose did enough to have THAT much of difference, especially with Delta.  Maybe it does.

I still find it really odd, but thanks for the response.
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« Reply #3646 on: October 25, 2021, 04:57:39 pm »
The flat line I mean is number of cases, so population shouldn't have anything to do with it.  They had the same number of people when the curve was super high.

I didn't think one dose did enough to have THAT much of difference, especially with Delta.  Maybe it does.

I still find it really odd, but thanks for the response.

I found an article from NY Times, dated September 17, 2021 that talked about an 'explosion' of cases ... but didn't find anything else substantiating that so I don't know if it's accurate.  https://www.nytimes.com/article/india-coronavirus-cases-deaths.html

I think one shot will help in the short term at least, as it does confer something like 60% protection, IIRC.

But if the virus will burn itself out shortly everywhere, that would be great.  :)
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« Reply #3647 on: October 25, 2021, 11:51:52 pm »
I found an article from NY Times, dated September 17, 2021 that talked about an 'explosion' of cases ... but didn't find anything else substantiating that so I don't know if it's accurate.  https://www.nytimes.com/article/india-coronavirus-cases-deaths.html

I think one shot will help in the short term at least, as it does confer something like 60% protection, IIRC.

But if the virus will burn itself out shortly everywhere, that would be great.  :)


I shamefully admit I still don't know how to post pictures on this forum but the page below the graph I'm talking about of the number of cases.  They went from 400k/day to ~15K/day...  Death graph followed the same pattern.

BC is much more vaccinated, less crowded with more people having access to good hygiene but Delta has kept us steady.  It makes zero sense.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/
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« Reply #3648 on: October 26, 2021, 08:34:09 am »
Here's an article that suggests 70% of Indians have antibodies from having been infected to explain why there is a drop in the infection rate:  https://fortune.com/2021/08/03/covid-delta-variant-wave-uk-have-already-receded-us/

It seems there's been a similar trend in the UK, where more people are vaccinated. 

Which reminds me, I used to play online scrabble with a guy from England, and he said his daughter was in the hospital overnight with Covid.  A while later, my friend simply disappeared off Facebook.  I'm afraid he got Covid and didn't make it, but hope maybe he just decided the online world wasn't for him.

And, BCSapper hasn't posted here or in the other forum for a month.  I hope he's just taking a break.


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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3649 on: October 26, 2021, 03:15:11 pm »
Over 70% of the country has now had at least one shot now. Could have a lot to do with it. They are still having over 10 million new cases a month but with over a billion people that looks like a flat line.

10 million new cases per month! 

I wish there was a ‘holy ****’ tag I could use. 

Good reminder that just because it’s not front page news, doesn’t mean it’s not still happening.
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« Reply #3650 on: October 26, 2021, 03:21:28 pm »
One big difference is median age. India 28, BC 42.
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« Reply #3651 on: November 12, 2021, 03:23:47 pm »
I was in the vicinity of this debacle yesterday:

https://globalnews.ca/news/8367360/kelowna-remembrance-day-ceremony-disrupted/

I wasn't in time for the initial kerfuffle.  I arrived just before people began singing O Canada, and didn't realize there had been an incident before that.  Then I approached the cenotaph, and this woman began whistling and calling for attention. And then an older gentleman came up to her microphone and told the story of his Uncle Freddy, who died in a Lancaster bomber over Europe in 1943, and everybody applauded. I thought "gee, it was nice of her to introduce that man." But then he left and the woman returned to the microphone and said "Now I'd like to continue my speech..."  and began talking about how the freedoms the veterans fought for are being taken from us, and how we are now fighting World War Three.

I left, and heard a lot of people booing her behind me.  If you think having to wear a mask when you go get groceries is comparable to being in an actual war, you're just incredibly ignorant.

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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3652 on: November 17, 2021, 02:42:17 pm »


In Kansas and other places, anti-vaxxers are showing up to municipal meetings wearing yellow stars, portraying themselves as having equal footing with Jewish victims of the Holocaust.



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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3653 on: November 30, 2021, 12:40:16 am »
 omicron <=> moronic
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3654 on: December 02, 2021, 06:36:32 pm »
c'mon waldo - tis a tad early for such seasonal festivities - yes?


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« Reply #3655 on: December 03, 2021, 12:19:44 am »
Quote from: Ursula von der Leyen, the EU Commission head
European Union countries should consider mandatory vaccination to combat Covid and the Omicron variant.

Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan to make shots compulsory

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Germany on Thursday announced a nationwide lockdown for the unvaccinated, as its leaders backed plans for mandatory vaccinations in the coming months.

Unvaccinated people will be banned from accessing all but the most essential businesses, such as supermarkets and pharmacies, to curb the spread of coronavirus, outgoing Chancellor Angela Merkel and her successor, Olaf Scholz, announced Thursday, following crisis talks with regional leaders.

The pair also backed proposals for mandatory vaccinations, which if voted through the parliament could take effect from February at the earliest.

wait waldo, lookee what Jordan Peterson is up to... cause why lose an opportunity for manufactured misinformation drama, particularly if it helps support anti-vaxx positioning and presumes to leverage that ole' anti-vaxxer chestnut that COVID vaccines are experimental. Notwithstanding, of course, that the EU Commission head has said nothing about the 'Nuremberg Code' - that set of research ethics principles for human experimentation emanating from the Nuremberg trials at the end of the Second World War. Clearly Peterson and his ilk have no qualms in positioning COVID vaccination policies as being comparable to those Nuremberg trials most notable for the prosecution of prominent members of the political, military, judicial, and economic leadership of Nazi Germany, who planned, carried out, or otherwise participated in the Holocaust and other war crimes.


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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3656 on: December 05, 2021, 01:19:29 pm »
geezaz waldo! Those anti-vaxxers have data... science... on their side - where a recent study analysis shows that half of all new infection cases occurred in the vaccinated! Oh my!

oh wait waldo - what's this... spin city - LOL!

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« Reply #3657 on: December 13, 2021, 11:55:24 am »
The prevailing narrative is that cases are being driven by irresponsible anti-vaxxers. It would be instructive to note the percentage of unvaccinated individuals under the age of 20 testing positive.

I think these bloated numbers are being driven by unvaccinated students.

Kids get sick, it's unavoidable.

We are going to see a choke point in vaccination as 5 to 12-year-olds and 50+ booster eligible people all attempt to get a finite number of vaccination appointments.
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« Reply #3658 on: December 13, 2021, 12:49:34 pm »
You can just drop in to our local pharmacy for a shot or  a booster if you like. There might be bottleneck for appointments in places but at least there seems to be no shortage of vaccine. Apparently we're even slowly running out of anti-vaxxers.
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3659 on: December 13, 2021, 03:39:28 pm »
You can just drop in to our local pharmacy for a shot or  a booster if you like. There might be bottleneck for appointments in places but at least there seems to be no shortage of vaccine. Apparently we're even slowly running out of anti-vaxxers.

I think the anti-vaxxers will concentrate in 18 and unders. I know parents who aren't anti-vaxxers who have had their 2 doses and are waiting to give their kids the vaccine.  Some have gone ahead and got their kids the vaccine because of Omicron.  The kids aren't much at risk of COVID but they're spreaders.

I'm not even that worried about cases, it's the ICU and death numbers we should be a lot more worried about.
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