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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3135 on: April 09, 2021, 10:57:14 pm »
Really it is the only number that counts.

At Canada's current rate, the difference between the bottom of the OECD plateau countries (28th), and the top (5th) is about 1 week of vaccinations.

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« Reply #3136 on: April 10, 2021, 10:07:23 am »
At Canada's current rate, the difference between the bottom of the OECD plateau countries (28th), and the top (5th) is about 1 week of vaccinations.

Only 3 days....6 hrs...54 minutes and 59, 58, 57 seconds and counting...
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« Reply #3137 on: April 12, 2021, 10:23:46 am »
CTV has a resource using "percentage of population receiving 1 does"

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-many-people-in-canada-have-received-shots-1.5247509

To which Canada only trails the US and UK for this figure, when considering large Western Democracies.

If you re-sample to include "eligible" which would weed out anyone under 16, we'll achieve 1/4 of the eligible population receiving at least one shot in the next few days.

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« Reply #3138 on: April 12, 2021, 11:23:39 am »
CTV has a resource using "percentage of population receiving 1 does"

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-many-people-in-canada-have-received-shots-1.5247509

To which Canada only trails the US and UK for this figure, when considering large Western Democracies.

If you re-sample to include "eligible" which would weed out anyone under 16, we'll achieve 1/4 of the eligible population receiving at least one shot in the next few days.

True if you just look at the number who have received one dose but if you look at how many have been fully vaccinated we are way behind.
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3139 on: April 12, 2021, 12:13:48 pm »
True if you just look at the number who have received one dose but if you look at how many have been fully vaccinated we are way behind.

Because that's the route we've chosen to go, to provide wide protection to many people.

It's also a route that's been chosen by the UK, Finland, and now France to one degree or another.

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« Reply #3140 on: April 12, 2021, 12:25:12 pm »
True if you just look at the number who have received one dose but if you look at how many have been fully vaccinated we are way behind.

That's quite, by design.

People who are getting vaccinated now are getting appointments for a second shot in July.

The goal is keeping people from getting very sick. If one shot does that, then it'll be a success.

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« Reply #3141 on: April 12, 2021, 12:33:03 pm »
That's quite, by design.

People who are getting vaccinated now are getting appointments for a second shot in July.

The goal is keeping people from getting very sick. If one shot does that, then it'll be a success.

Yes, countries are choosing heir own strategies. I agree with getting shots in as many people as possible first but not too sure about going four months. Time will tell and the fact AstraZeneca is getting its best results by waiting three months is somewhat reassuring.
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3143 on: April 13, 2021, 07:56:51 pm »
Got my jab. Moderna. Pretty anti-climactic really.  I was half expecting armed guards...an angry crowd waiting to get in...another one protesting and calling us traitors.

Poke didn't hurt at all, arm feels fine. We were directed to a waiting room for 15 minutes, to allow for any immediate adverse effects.  Everything seemed okay until I got home and noticed a couple little error messages floating in the periphery of my vision that say; Download Failed...and something about a corrupt DLL in the FAT file. I hate it when that happens.
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« Reply #3144 on: April 13, 2021, 08:53:33 pm »
like did Ontario Cons think no one would check? These 'hot spots' getting vaccine priority are less hard-hit by COVID-19 than Ontario average



Ford gov trying to genocide people who don't vote for them, and save the lives of people who do?

That's...quite the serious allegation.  Something does look a bit fishy.  From the article:

"Five postal code zones declared as hot spots have rates of COVID-19 cases, hospitalization and death that are actually below the provincial averages, according to data compiled by ICES, a research institute focused on health issues in Ontario.

The designation of hot spot gives people in those areas higher priority for vaccinations, despite their lower-than-average pandemic burden. More than 175,000 people live in the five postal codes zones, four of them in ridings represented by Progressive Conservative MPPs.

CBC's review of the data identified seven postal code zones that have felt a greater impact from COVID-19 as measured by the province's official criteria, yet are not classed as hot spots. All are located in ridings held by the opposition parties.
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3145 on: April 13, 2021, 10:10:36 pm »
So...now I'll be able to blame my senior's moments on software updates!  The install is a little disorienting. Makes my eyeballs go round and round.

Ba dum tsss!


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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3146 on: April 14, 2021, 11:14:28 pm »
oh Eric - there you go again!

   

{h/t economist Trevor Tombe}... and, again, that broader all encompassing category 'World' doesn't delineate those countries that are using Chinese and/or Russian vaccines, while also including countries with relatively low populations.

on edit: Canada reached #2 ranking within G7 countries
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #3147 on: April 15, 2021, 10:29:43 am »
The feds have been absolutely incompetent at locking down our borders and allowing variants to enter the country over the last year.  People were long able to come and go as they please for any reason.  Unbelievable.
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« Reply #3148 on: April 15, 2021, 12:38:52 pm »
The feds have been absolutely incompetent at locking down our borders and allowing variants to enter the country over the last year.  People were long able to come and go as they please for any reason.  Unbelievable.

as the waldo is aware, the first variant identified, the UK variant, was first observed in Sept-2020... but didn't become a so-called 'variant of concern(VOC)' until Dec-2020 when British health authorities started an investigation given the variant was spreading fast and likely contributing to the rising number of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the South of England.

member Gorgeous, having now knocked-down your "over the last year" hyperbole, what should have been done... that wasn't done?

the waldo ruminates: accepting that covid-19 related decisions are not purely scientific or medical decisions - that there are also many societal and political factors at play, could any measure aimed at stopping variant spread have enough impact when, at the same time, provinces were hell-bent on lifting restrictions designed to minimize virus transmission in the first place?

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« Reply #3149 on: April 15, 2021, 09:38:08 pm »
what should have been done... that wasn't done?

We didn't emulate Australia and New Zealand's approach back in Nov/Dec.


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the waldo ruminates: accepting that covid-19 related decisions are not purely scientific or medical decisions - that there are also many societal and political factors at play, could any measure aimed at stopping variant spread have enough impact when, at the same time, provinces were hell-bent on lifting restrictions designed to minimize virus transmission in the first place?
Yes, Ottawa could have directed that Canada adopt the COVID Zero path Australia and New Zealand took. We needed a PM who was more willing to say "just watch me" when it came to leadership during this pandemic. Imagine if it had been Quebec's responsibility to deal with the FLQ.
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