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« Reply #2730 on: January 18, 2021, 12:18:28 pm »
Some disappointing news. Yesterday, they talked about up to 20M people being vaccinated by May - June, but today they're talking about 13M people. I'm not sure what's up with that.
Might have to do with retooling the Belgium plant.

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« Reply #2731 on: January 18, 2021, 03:59:53 pm »
Alberta is out of vaccine today or tomorrow.

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« Reply #2732 on: January 18, 2021, 05:05:02 pm »
Alberta is out of vaccine today or tomorrow.

Unfortunately, there doesn't yet seem to be firm data from Pfizer. Alberta is going a bit too fast for the pre February supply. This will make it more stop/start.

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« Reply #2733 on: January 18, 2021, 05:05:51 pm »
Might have to do with retooling the Belgium plant.

It seems they're retooling the plant to increase the ability to deliver vaccines in Q2. It might mean that after this delay, we're able to get our allotment faster.
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« Reply #2734 on: January 19, 2021, 08:35:12 am »
It seems they're retooling the plant to increase the ability to deliver vaccines in Q2. It might mean that after this delay, we're able to get our allotment faster.

Yeah, it's a short-term disruption to allow for more capacity going forward.

Ultimately it's a good thing.

I don't think we'll see meaningful Vaccination numbers until the J&J vaccine hits the market.
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« Reply #2735 on: January 20, 2021, 02:33:17 pm »
Might have to do with retooling the Belgium plant.
It seems they're retooling the plant to increase the ability to deliver vaccines in Q2. It might mean that after this delay, we're able to get our allotment faster.
Yeah, it's a short-term disruption to allow for more capacity going forward.

Ultimately it's a good thing.

I don't think we'll see meaningful Vaccination numbers until the J&J vaccine hits the market.

Quote from: vaccine procurement - Ontario Premier Doug Ford's intent toward Pfizer CEO
I’d be up that guy’s ying yang so far within a firecracker, he wouldn’t know what hit him

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« Reply #2737 on: January 21, 2021, 06:56:26 pm »
Many EU countries are being cut by up to 50%.  Canada is cut by 100%!!!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-pfizer-europe/pfizer-cuts-vaccine-deliveries-by-as-much-as-half-to-some-eu-countries-idUSKBN29Q2BX

The original plan was for equitable cuts. Europe, the place the vaccine came from and where the plant is, put pressure for a different arrangement. This is a speed bump, and it sucks, but Pfizer has a contractual obligation to deliver 4M doses by the end of March. That shouldn't be a problem once the increased capacity comes online in the second half of February.

As of today, between Pfizer and Moderna, Canada has contractual commitments for 72M doses by the end of Q3.


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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #2739 on: January 26, 2021, 09:13:26 am »
Canadian mogul fined after getting Covid vaccine meant for Indigenous residents
Getting? After "stealing" COVID vaccine meant for Indigenous residents. Stealing by actively lying to procure a dose that was never meant for him.

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« Reply #2740 on: January 26, 2021, 09:36:26 am »
He is now unemployed so that first shot was pretty expensive.
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« Reply #2741 on: January 26, 2021, 09:51:48 am »
The drug companies are really starting to **** off the EU. This distribution was supposed to be equitable, yet places like the Canada and the EU (where the vaccines are actually made) are running behind other countries like the UK and Israel. I’m hoping we don’t suffer from this talk of export controls.

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« Reply #2742 on: January 26, 2021, 10:59:10 am »
The drug companies are really starting to **** off the EU. This distribution was supposed to be equitable, yet places like the Canada and the EU (where the vaccines are actually made) are running behind other countries like the UK and Israel. I’m hoping we don’t suffer from this talk of export controls.
It was kind of inevitable wasn't it? I was hoping there was a secret cabal of intelligent ethical experts somewhere orchestrating vaccine production and delivery in a manner that targeted the global population in the prioritized manner most countries are generally employing. Perhaps there is still one somewhere trying but it's just no match for the pandemic of STUPID20 gripping the planet.  COVID19 is like a mild flu compared to that.

Cooperation is the premier thing lacking in our preparedness for COVID bar none. There should have been an international response mounted against this months ago that's on par with the effort to act on climate change.

Oh...right.  ::)

I guess this is why I've been convinced for years that we couldn't cooperate our way out of a wet paper bag if our lives depended on it.  Imagine if COVID was an asteroid we saw coming a year ago.

We really should rename our planet and call it Babel.
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« Reply #2743 on: January 26, 2021, 11:36:52 am »
EU is talking about putting restrictions on how much vaccine is allowed to leave the EU, made by Pfizer. 

The Moderna vaccine would not be restricted as it isn’t made in the EU.

Remember those doses of Moderna that Canada passed on?   Ooops.  That decision may cost Canadian lives.
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« Reply #2744 on: January 26, 2021, 12:32:13 pm »
The Moderna vaccine would not be restricted as it isn’t made in the EU.
Why not?  The pressure mounting for countries to look after their own first is the same.

I'd like to know why we can't surge a production facility into existence ourselves starting next week and have it up and running the week after if we throw enough billions at it.  Okay two weeks.