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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #2040 on: October 30, 2020, 02:24:49 pm »
The US is going to have another big day with Covid deaths over a thousand.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Worth a look and possibly some predictions on where it's going.

I think a significant number of Dem supporters will take off their masks after the election. That, as well as every other consideration taken into account leads me to predicting steady death rate in the US of at least 2000.
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« Reply #2041 on: October 30, 2020, 02:42:27 pm »
The US is going to have another big day with Covid deaths over a thousand.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Worth a look and possibly some predictions on where it's going.

I think a significant number of Dem supporters will take off their masks after the election. That, as well as every other consideration taken into account leads me to predicting steady death rate in the US of at least 2000.

Why would you think Dem supporters would be dumb enough to think that an election being over is somehow going to disarm a deadly virus? I imagine there are a portion of Trump supporters who believe his recent blatant lie that they have "defeated Corona 19". Mind you I imagine many of them never did wear masks and therefore will continue to drive case/death numbers skyward, especially as the cold weather moves in. Not a lot left to be said about Trump IMO, he himself is a disease infecting and harming the American public. Tuesday is a chance to begin to try and rite some of that.
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« Reply #2042 on: October 30, 2020, 05:43:41 pm »
Perspective has been completely lost.  The median age of a covid death is 78.  Regardless, if the media had daily running counts of deaths from other things, people would develop an unwarranted fear of those things as well.  Daily cancer deaths in Canada average around 250.  But the media is broadcasting those numbers every frat with a running tab.  Daily covid deaths in Canada are a fraction of that.  Data from the UK puts things in a better perspective.  But it’s really up to people practicing personal responsibility.  If you abide by guidelines of wearing masks, washing hands, avoiding large gatherings, what somebody else does or doesn’t do has very little significance.  Do your part for yourself.  And stop asking other people to close down their businesses or **** themselves inside for your peace of mind.
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #2043 on: October 30, 2020, 05:47:23 pm »
Why would you think Dem supporters would be dumb enough to think that an election being over is somehow going to disarm a deadly virus? I

Good question and I don't mind answering it again. First, they're Americans. And many of them are wearing masks because it identifies them politically as Democrats. Democrats don't truly believe in the dangers of Covid anymore than do Repubs..

Honestly, don't you think I've made a valid point?

Have you noticed how Trump's peanut gallery that stands behind him when he babble on are mostly wearing masks? I think they are told to wear masks for appearance sake and they are even supplied with the masks that have the MAGA message on them.

I just can't impress on you people enough, they're fkng Americans!
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« Reply #2044 on: October 30, 2020, 05:50:52 pm »
Why would you think Dem supporters would be dumb enough to think that an election being over is somehow going to disarm a deadly virus? I imagine there are a portion of Trump supporters who believe his recent blatant lie that they have "defeated Corona 19". Mind you I imagine many of them never did wear masks and therefore will continue to drive case/death numbers skyward, especially as the cold weather moves in. Not a lot left to be said about Trump IMO, he himself is a disease infecting and harming the American public. Tuesday is a chance to begin to try and rite some of that.
Complete nonsense.  Trump isn’t responsible for Democrat governors forcing covid patients into nursing homes causing tens of thousands of deaths .  He also has no authority to close down or open up any state.  Governors have that authority.  He also didn’t cause people to mass protest and riot for 5 months.  The disease affecting American is what led to his election in the first place.  Elites putting the interests of the wealthy ahead of the middle class.  Shipping jobs overseas for years.  Depressing wages by ensuring a huge supply of unskilled labour.  Fighting endless foreign wars costing trillions of dollars.  All of which Biden has been a big proponent of, and helped contribute to during his decades long reign in the federal government.
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #2045 on: October 30, 2020, 05:53:19 pm »
Shady isn't trying to be objective and it's mainly because he has an axe to grind for his rightist bent. The first 4 he's listed are nearly all due to old age.

But it's an interesting attempt to answer the question on what could be considered an acceptable number of deaths in the US with a population of 330M.
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« Reply #2046 on: October 30, 2020, 05:56:31 pm »
Complete nonsense.  Trump isn’t responsible for Democrat governors forcing covid patients into nursing homes causing tens of thousands of deaths .  He also has no authority to close down or open up any state.  Governors have that authority.  He also didn’t cause people to mass protest and riot for 5 months.  The disease affecting American is what led to his election in the first place.  Elites putting the interests of the wealthy ahead of the middle class.  Shipping jobs overseas for years.  Depressing wages by ensuring a huge supply of unskilled labour.  Fighting endless foreign wars costing trillions of dollars.  All of which Biden has been a big proponent of, and helped contribute to during his decades long reign in the federal government.

Half truths from you are better than an annoying string of lies you make up to support your mentally ill president. "Your" in the sense that you support it, not that you own it. At least I don't think you do?
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« Reply #2047 on: October 30, 2020, 05:59:33 pm »
Half truths from you are better than an annoying string of lies you make up to support your mentally ill president. "Your" in the sense that you support it, not that you own it. At least I don't think you do?
Ad hominem attacks are so intellectually lazy.  Do better.
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« Reply #2048 on: October 30, 2020, 06:16:57 pm »
Perspective has been completely lost.  The median age of a covid death is 78.  Regardless, if the media had daily running counts of deaths from other things, people would develop an unwarranted fear of those things as well.  Daily cancer deaths in Canada average around 250.  But the media is broadcasting those numbers every frat with a running tab.  Daily covid deaths in Canada are a fraction of that.  Data from the UK puts things in a better perspective.  But it’s really up to people practicing personal responsibility.  If you abide by guidelines of wearing masks, washing hands, avoiding large gatherings, what somebody else does or doesn’t do has very little significance.  Do your part for yourself.  And stop asking other people to close down their businesses or **** themselves inside for your peace of mind.
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Only one of those is infectious, the one that has killed over 46,000 Britons since March.
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« Reply #2049 on: October 30, 2020, 06:20:04 pm »
40,000+ deaths in England from COVID.   Only a lying idiot would try and downplay the severity.
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« Reply #2050 on: October 30, 2020, 06:20:42 pm »
Ad hominem attacks are so intellectually lazy.  Do better.

But then again if the shoe fits...

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« Reply #2051 on: October 30, 2020, 10:43:10 pm »

Not to be hating on Quebec, but our nation within our nation highly skews our COVID numbers.  Quebec is looking at 735 deaths/million which is very close to the US (705 per million). 

They started off on the wrong foot with spring break and always had more cases, but they also were the first to open up, allowed bigger capacity events which led to superspreader events and generally are more lax (or as they excuse it, they're just more social).   ::)

Take Quebec out of the equation and ROC is at ~130 death/million.  Not even comparable to the US.

622 cases today in Alberta.   Soon, you’ll be saying “if it wasn’t for Alberta skewing the case numbers”....   
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #2052 on: October 31, 2020, 01:00:52 pm »
It's too bad everybody is more interested in the politics than trying to examine the severity in the numbers. Is it now something close to seasonal flu numbers, considering rate of testing, severity, population/case numbers, and all the other factors?
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Re: Covid Culture (was Outbreak Culture)
« Reply #2053 on: October 31, 2020, 01:51:12 pm »
622 cases today in Alberta.   Soon, you’ll be saying “if it wasn’t for Alberta skewing the case numbers”....

The topic was deaths/million comparing the US to Canada and I was just saying that Canada's are actually a lot lower if you exclude Quebec.

I didn't mean to be insensitive, I love Quebec and lived there for many years. 

It's just my nature to analyze numbers.  I know overall we are still faring better than the US.

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« Reply #2054 on: October 31, 2020, 02:00:37 pm »
It's too bad everybody is more interested in the politics than trying to examine the severity in the numbers. Is it now something close to seasonal flu numbers, considering rate of testing, severity, population/case numbers, and all the other factors?

No, it's much more contagious and fatal than the flu.  Stats are out there if you google.

Case in point: in the US where much of the country has been pretty laissez faire, over 220K people have died since March even though many others are practicing social distancing, small social bubbles and mask wearing.  Flu kills 12K-60K/year without any of those measures.
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