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« Reply #1935 on: August 31, 2020, 01:57:13 pm »
I also see the government is investing in building a production facility capable of producing 2 million doses of any prospective vaccine per month and will maintain it. It will take two years (hopefully) but they get a thumbs up for that.
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« Reply #1936 on: August 31, 2020, 04:19:49 pm »
It's good to see that they are at least branching out to different vaccines although the Johnson & Johnson is just in Phase 1/2.

the J&J candidate: Sept 2020 - Phase 3 initiation (potential) // your much favoured/touted Oxford AstraZeneca candidate: just 2-weeks ago {estimated} entry into U.S. Phase 3 trial

   


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« Reply #1937 on: August 31, 2020, 04:44:18 pm »
I also see the government is investing in building a production facility capable of producing 2 million doses of any prospective vaccine per month and will maintain it. It will take two years (hopefully) but they get a thumbs up for that.

as I mentioned in an earlier Aug 17 post, this latest announcement is over and above the financial support the Government of Canada initially provided for upgrades to the existing NRC Royalmount Avenue biomanufacturing facility in Montréal; specifically, upgrades to complete in late 2020/early 2021. As for today's latest announcement concerning a new NRC facility... with a completion timeline must sooner than your stated 'will take two years (hopefully)' period; specifically:

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« Reply #1938 on: August 31, 2020, 09:29:34 pm »
the J&J candidate: Sept 2020 - Phase 3 initiation (potential) // your much favoured/touted Oxford AstraZeneca candidate: just 2-weeks ago {estimated} entry into U.S. Phase 3 trial

   

Even J&J are saying this won't be available other than for emergency use until the fall of 21.
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« Reply #1939 on: August 31, 2020, 11:22:57 pm »
Even J&J are saying this won't be available other than for emergency use until the fall of 21.

for all the luvin' you've showered the AstraZeneca candidate with, somehow... you can't even manage to put forward an estimated availability timeline for it - of course, assuming its efficacy proves out in the first place!
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« Reply #1940 on: September 01, 2020, 09:05:58 am »
to-date, secured formal dose agreements have been reached between the Government of Canada and the following drug manufacturers using their respective candidate vaccines:

=> Pfizer - BNT162
=> Moderna - mRNA-1273
=> Novavax - NVX-CoV2373
=> Johnson & Johnson - Ad26.COV2-S

after the initial announcement on Aug 5 identifying vaccine dose agreements signed with Moderna & Pfizer, Navdeep Bains, Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry stated: "as active negotiations with other potential vaccine suppliers are under way, the Government of Canada cannot disclose contract details at this time."

as of Monday's announcement, agreements with Novavax and Johnson & Johnson have been added - and now member wilber... what will you natter on incessantly about after the following was also stated at Monday's press announcement?

Quote from: Anita Anand, Minister of Public Services & Procurement
Canada is also in the final stages of negotiations to secure AstraZeneca’s potential vaccine and is in talks to secure more doses of the Pfizer vaccine candidate.

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« Reply #1941 on: September 01, 2020, 09:14:00 am »
for all the luvin' you've showered the AstraZeneca candidate with, somehow... you can't even manage to put forward an estimated availability timeline for it - of course, assuming its efficacy proves out in the first place!

Anand announced yesterday that Canada is in final negotiations with AstraZeneca, three months after other countries have tied up over a billion doses.

There was a news article on either CTV or Global yesterday with several medicos expressing concern with how late Canada has been in securing vaccines and wondering when we will actually get them. Guess we will have to wait and see what next year brings.
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« Reply #1943 on: September 01, 2020, 03:37:37 pm »
after the initial announcement on Aug 5 identifying vaccine dose agreements signed with Moderna & Pfizer, Navdeep Bains, Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry stated: "as active negotiations with other potential vaccine suppliers are under way, the Government of Canada cannot disclose contract details at this time."

as of Monday's announcement, agreements with Novavax and Johnson & Johnson have been added - and now member wilber... what will you natter on incessantly about after the following was also stated at Monday's press announcement?

Quote from: Anita Anand, Minister of Public Services & Procurement
Canada is also in the final stages of negotiations to secure AstraZeneca’s potential vaccine and is in talks to secure more doses of the Pfizer vaccine candidate.


c'mon member wilber, you know negotiation particulars have not been made public... which, of course, isn't stopping the uber-partisan American "expert" in your linked article from mouthing-off as if he knows the full details - as you continue your own nattering patter!  ;D

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« Reply #1944 on: September 01, 2020, 03:40:16 pm »
as I mentioned in an earlier Aug 17 post, this latest announcement is over and above the financial support the Government of Canada initially provided for upgrades to the existing NRC Royalmount Avenue biomanufacturing facility in Montréal; specifically, upgrades to complete in late 2020/early 2021. As for today's latest announcement concerning a new NRC facility... with a completion timeline must sooner than your stated 'will take two years (hopefully)' period; specifically:

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Quote from: Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada
Once a vaccine is proven to work, we’ll also need to be able to produce and distribute it here at home

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« Reply #1945 on: September 01, 2020, 07:29:27 pm »
This isn’t one of your dumb political games, it is about a virus that is wreaking havoc with peoples lives and economies. We will see how the manufacturing goes but even at the forecast 2 million doses a month it would still take 17 months to produce a single dose for the entire population.

The fact is, we are way behind other Western countries when it comes to securing supplies but your blind partisanship could never allow you to acknowledge that. We shall have to wait and see.
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« Reply #1946 on: September 02, 2020, 12:01:17 am »
The fact is, we are way behind other Western countries when it comes to securing supplies but your blind partisanship could never allow you to acknowledge that.

fact? The waldo calls bullshyte on your claim... step-up and state the facts behind your claim - sure you can!  ;D Here's your reference point:

to-date, secured formal dose agreements have been reached between the Government of Canada and the following drug manufacturers using their respective candidate vaccines:

=> Pfizer - BNT162
=> Moderna - mRNA-1273
=> Novavax - NVX-CoV2373
=> Johnson & Johnson - Ad26.COV2-S
=> University of Oxford / AstraZeneca - ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (Canada is in the final stages of negotiations to secure this candidate)

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« Reply #1947 on: September 02, 2020, 04:26:31 pm »
fact? The waldo calls bullshyte on your claim... step-up and state the facts behind your claim - sure you can!  ;D Here's your reference point:

to-date, secured formal dose agreements have been reached between the Government of Canada and the following drug manufacturers using their respective candidate vaccines:

=> Pfizer - BNT162
=> Moderna - mRNA-1273
=> Novavax - NVX-CoV2373
=> Johnson & Johnson - Ad26.COV2-S
=> University of Oxford / AstraZeneca - ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (Canada is in the final stages of negotiations to secure this candidate)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-vaccines-canada-profiles-1.5708240

We would be way down the list for the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine unless we could produce it ourselves, they have already contracted to sell over a billion doses to the US, UK and EU, plus many more countries.
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« Reply #1948 on: September 09, 2020, 01:09:04 pm »
fact? The waldo calls bullshyte on your claim... step-up and state the facts behind your claim - sure you can!

still waiting member wilber; still waiting!


by the by: shyte happens - Sept 9, 2020!

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A large, Phase 3 study testing a Covid-19 vaccine being developed by AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford at dozens of sites across the U.S. has been put on hold due to a suspected serious adverse reaction in a participant in the United Kingdom.

The participant who triggered a global shutdown of AstraZeneca’s Phase 3 Covid-19 vaccine trials was a woman in the United Kingdom who experienced neurological symptoms consistent with a rare but serious spinal inflammatory disorder called transverse myelitis, the drug maker’s chief executive, Pascal Soriot, said during a private conference call with investors on Wednesday morning.

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« Reply #1949 on: September 09, 2020, 01:27:16 pm »
super-spreader event => last month's Sturgis Motorcycle Rally in South Dakota

a study reveals: the event led to an estimated $12.2 billion in public health costs; more than 266,000 positive COVID-19 cases were tied to the event attended by more than 460,000 individuals.

of course, Republican naysayers have falsely categorized the study as model-based... a faulty/questionable model! Unfortunately for those nay-sayers, the study is data based, not relying on modeling. A key critic of the study... of those critical of the event, is South Dakota Governor, Kristi Noem - the latest darling of the GOP... said to be "the next one" by many. Certainly her presidential aspirations were on full display at the recent GOP 'convention'