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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #1605 on: May 14, 2020, 10:36:59 pm »
My sister posted this on FaceBook. Freeking awesome

Does she work in the USA?
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« Reply #1606 on: May 14, 2020, 10:39:14 pm »
Does she work in the USA?

Nope, don't know where she found it.
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« Reply #1607 on: May 14, 2020, 10:50:48 pm »
Nope, don't know where she found it.

 Oh.  I thought you meant she actually posted it, not just re-posted it from some random person. 
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« Reply #1608 on: May 14, 2020, 11:10:35 pm »
Oh.  I thought you meant she actually posted it, not just re-posted it from some random person.

Joshua Ross, I suppose.  I'm not overly familiar with how Facebook works.
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« Reply #1609 on: May 15, 2020, 12:43:39 am »
Doctors running into hospitals is as beautiful as soldiers running into bullets, so says donald trump. If that doesn't freak you out you must be brain dead. I pity the United States currently having to weather this storm with such such a ridiculously stupid **** at the helm.

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« Reply #1610 on: May 15, 2020, 12:59:19 am »
clearly... on queue, right-wing/alt-right heads are exploding cause they see the name 'Greta'!  ;D

c'mon member Shady, that panel has 2 doctors and the former head of the U.S. Health & Services Department... I expect they'll be handling any direct health related issues/questions. Perhaps Ms. Thunburg has more than one kind of activism to lend/pursue - yes?

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Greta Thunberg is donating $100,000 to help children affected by coronavirus pandemic... donating prize money she won to help fight the coronavirus pandemic and protect children from its potentially detrimental consequences.

Human Act, a Danish worldwide development organization, recently gave Thunberg $100,000 for her global activism, but now that money will go to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), according to a statement from the agency. Human Act has pledged to match Thunberg's donation by contributing another $100,000 to launch a campaign specifically aimed at safeguarding children's rights and welfare at this time.

The sum will support UNICEF's efforts to protect children from food shortages, strained healthcare systems, violence and lost school days, according to the release.
"I'm asking everyone to step up and join me in support of UNICEF's vital work to save children's lives, to protect health and continue education," Thunberg said

The effects of the coronavirus pandemic are expected to be the most damaging for children in poorer countries and those living in the poorest neighborhoods, according to a recent study by the United Nations.

Through the campaign, UNICEF will help fight coronavirus by providing essential items like soap, masks, gloves, hygiene kits, protective equipment and life-saving information to healthcare systems in need.

c'mon member Shady, think of the children... think of the children!

Why is an activist involved in a panel called fact and fiction?  To provide the fiction maybe?

no - the panel is/was intended to address 'facts and fears'... the only fiction is yours; in any case, yours is a very lame-assed Shady worthy comeback. But c'mon man, as I read, she had a very specific message that, particularly amid the pandemic crisis, people should be listening more to experts and the global science community. Of course, that's not a message you're at all comfortable with, right?  ;D

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« Reply #1611 on: May 15, 2020, 01:18:48 am »
Finally a glimpse of reality.

Leaked data suggests China may have 640,000 coronavirus cases, not 80,000
https://nypost.com/2020/05/14/leaked-data-suggests-china-may-have-640k-coronavirus-cases-not-80k/

The point should be painfully obvious....  China cannot be trusted to provide proper information that may have helped other parts of the world deal with the virus.  By not reporting cases and deaths, and by not allowing outside medical professionals to learn rom what is happening there, China is putting other places in danger.

I thought it would be really obvious what the consequences are of being a secretive communist regime that is a notorious abuser of human rights and not an honest player in the world.

hey member Shady... your line even hooked a squiggy! Of course, if you actually took an extra 10 seconds to look at the original source (Foreign Policy - FP), it doesn't indulge in the ludicrousLeap to assume 640K updates (across 230 cities over a 3 month period) equates to... at least... 640K COVID-19 cases -  640,000 database rows purporting to show the number of COVID-19 cases in a specific location at the time an update is made!  ;D

by the by member Shady... that's the NY Post you're linking to (yet another Rupert Murdoch gem)... you had a whopper a short while back from another Murdoch piece-of-crap newspaper (the Australian Telegraph). Murdoch has been moving into higher Trump supporting gears in recent weeks, including a couple of schlock pieces in his WSJ. Such a surprise you got suckered again, hey member Shady!

member Shady calls it a, "glimpse of reality"!  ;D

cue the hyperbolic azzholes whining about poor lil' waldo supportin' the ChineseOverlords!

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« Reply #1612 on: May 15, 2020, 02:31:25 am »
ya, the ShadyOne tried this same Georgia state play in another thread... bubbleBurstingWaldo would have none of it!

Georgia confirms more than 1,000 new COVID-19 cases in 24 hours

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Everyone with more than three brain cells to rub together tried to tell dubiously elected Republican Gov. Brian Kemp that his science-free idea of reopening Georgia amidst the novel coronavirus pandemic was a terrible idea. Even strange South Carolina racist Sen. Lindsay Graham thought Kemp was moving too fast. Now, the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports that within a 24-hour span, the Peach State confirmed more than 1,000 new COVID-19 cases.

On Thursday {April 30}, the Georgia Department of Public Health had a confirmed number of 26,000 cases in the state. On Friday, with 164,465 tests reportedly administered, that number has shot up to 27,023. This comes after Gov. Kemp decreed that gyms, barber shops, massage parlors, tattoo parlors, and bowling alleys could reopen today, with restaurants and theaters being allowed to reopen on Monday, May 1.

Wait, what?  I thought it was suppose to be the exact opposite! 

Florida’s new cases actually declined by 14% compared to the previous week, and Georgia’s fell by 12%” between May 4 and May 11, Axios reported, noting that “Nevada leads the pack with a 44% reduction --- https://www.mediaite.com/news/florida-and-georgia-coronavirus-cases-decline-despite-concerns-south-dakota-cases-shoot-up-2/

early days coming out of so-called lockdown - notwithstanding, these U.S. States have all seen increases in COVID-19 cases: Oregon, California, Arizona, South Dakota, Minnesota, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina, Delaware, and Maine. And, of course, in isolation the total cases metric doesn't speak to a respective states outbreak severity... because the total cases count is limited by the amount of testing in each state, as well as differences in reporting. Additionally presumptive state-to-state comparisons must recognize that there was no standard complement of applied 'lockdown' restrictions within respective states and not all states came out of 'lockdown' on the same date.

but hey now member Shady! Have a lookee at this most recent Florida data... coming out of 'lockdown' on May 4th... not enough points yet for a trendline, but stay tuned, hey! Okay, lil' buddy - you're up: now you do the state of Georgia!  ;D

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« Reply #1613 on: May 15, 2020, 08:56:42 am »


early days coming out of so-called lockdown - notwithstanding, these U.S. States have all seen increases in COVID-19 cases: Oregon, California, Arizona, South Dakota, Minnesota, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina, Delaware, and Maine. And, of course, in isolation the total cases metric doesn't speak to a respective states outbreak severity... because the total cases count is limited by the amount of testing in each state, as well as differences in reporting. Additionally presumptive state-to-state comparisons must recognize that there was no standard complement of applied 'lockdown' restrictions within respective states and not all states came out of 'lockdown' on the same date.

but hey now member Shady! Have a lookee at this most recent Florida data... coming out of 'lockdown' on May 4th... not enough points yet for a trendline, but stay tuned, hey! Okay, lil' buddy - you're up: now you do the state of Georgia!  ;D


Sounds like you have an issue with Axios.  Regardless, you really need to differentiate between cases and active cases.  It must kill you that there hasn't been a big spike in cases huh?  You'd think it would be good news to most people.  Not you though.  Politics first!   

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« Reply #1614 on: May 15, 2020, 08:56:57 am »
Question.  Why does Cuomo get better press coverage than DeSantis, when Florida has done so much better with COVID-19?  Especially related to long-term care facilities and nursing homes?  Weird.  Couldn't be bias right?

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« Reply #1615 on: May 15, 2020, 10:45:41 am »
Prolly Trump's fault!

New York Sent Recovering Coronavirus Patients to Nursing Homes: ‘It Was a Fatal Error’
https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-sent-recovering-coronavirus-patients-to-nursing-homes-it-was-a-fatal-error-11589470773

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« Reply #1616 on: May 15, 2020, 11:31:59 am »
Wait, what?  I thought it was suppose to be the exact opposite! 

Florida’s new cases actually declined by 14% compared to the previous week, and Georgia’s fell by 12%” between May 4 and May 11, Axios reported, noting that “Nevada leads the pack with a 44% reduction --- https://www.mediaite.com/news/florida-and-georgia-coronavirus-cases-decline-despite-concerns-south-dakota-cases-shoot-up-2/

early days coming out of so-called lockdown - notwithstanding, these U.S. States have all seen increases in COVID-19 cases: Oregon, California, Arizona, South Dakota, Minnesota, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina, Delaware, and Maine. And, of course, in isolation the total cases metric doesn't speak to a respective states outbreak severity... because the total cases count is limited by the amount of testing in each state, as well as differences in reporting. Additionally presumptive state-to-state comparisons must recognize that there was no standard complement of applied 'lockdown' restrictions within respective states and not all states came out of 'lockdown' on the same date.

but hey now member Shady! Have a lookee at this most recent Florida data... coming out of 'lockdown' on May 4th... not enough points yet for a trendline, but stay tuned, hey! Okay, lil' buddy - you're up: now you do the state of Georgia!  ;D


Sounds like you have an issue with Axios.  Regardless, you really need to differentiate between cases and active cases.  It must kill you that there hasn't been a big spike in cases huh?  You'd think it would be good news to most people.  Not you though.  Politics first!

reads like you have no problem blindly accepting a most limited data sampling - of course... that's a part of your brand! Meanwhile you ignore the fact that current estimates of the incubation period range from 1-14 days with median estimates of 5-6 days between infection and the onset of clinical symptoms of COVID-19. While you also ignore that listing of U.S. states that have increased cases... you ignore the influence testing has on case counts while also ignoring all manner of caveats concerning testing (testing methodology, type(s) of testing, number of tests, targeted testing, false negatives, etc..) - of course you ignore it all!

so instead of acknowledging the small data sample, you ignore the extended dates beyond your cited example reference... dates showing significant increases. And now... NOW... you twaddleOn about, "total cases versus active cases", when your own example offered is with respect to total cases!. Here, have another dose of Florida total cases... is that curve flattening, hey Mr. Science?  ;D

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« Reply #1617 on: May 15, 2020, 11:37:04 am »
I have tapped my popcorn supply yet again as I await to hear from trump about his "warp speed" thing he is about to unveil. I can somehow anticipate the term "warped" may well describe a trump plan.

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« Reply #1618 on: May 15, 2020, 11:43:55 am »
early days coming out of so-called lockdown - notwithstanding, these U.S. States have all seen increases in COVID-19 cases: Oregon, California, Arizona, South Dakota, Minnesota, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina, Delaware, and Maine. And, of course, in isolation the total cases metric doesn't speak to a respective states outbreak severity... because the total cases count is limited by the amount of testing in each state, as well as differences in reporting. Additionally presumptive state-to-state comparisons must recognize that there was no standard complement of applied 'lockdown' restrictions within respective states and not all states came out of 'lockdown' on the same date.

but hey now member Shady! Have a lookee at this most recent Florida data... coming out of 'lockdown' on May 4th... not enough points yet for a trendline, but stay tuned, hey! Okay, lil' buddy - you're up: now you do the state of Georgia!  ;D



reads like you have no problem blindly accepting a most limited data sampling - of course... that's a part of your brand! Meanwhile you ignore the fact that current estimates of the incubation period range from 1-14 days with median estimates of 5-6 days between infection and the onset of clinical symptoms of COVID-19. While you also ignore that listing of U.S. states that have increased cases... you ignore the influence testing has on case counts while also ignoring all manner of caveats concerning testing (testing methodology, type(s) of testing, number of tests, targeted testing, false negatives, etc..) - of course you ignore it all!

so instead of acknowledging the small data sample, you ignore the extended dates beyond your cited example reference... dates showing significant increases. And now... NOW... you twaddleOn about, "total cases versus active cases", when your own example offered is with respect to total cases!. Here, have another dose of Florida total cases... is that curve flattening, hey Mr. Science?  ;D


Please differentiate between total active cases vs total cases.  Total cases will never go down.  Total active cases will.  There hasn't been significant increases.  As per my cite.  There's been a 12 - 14% decrease.  perhaps you need to contact Axios and argue with them.  Bummer that cases are going down huh?  Sucks big time!

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« Reply #1619 on: May 15, 2020, 11:55:12 am »
Please differentiate between total active cases vs total cases.  Total cases will never go down.  Total active cases will.  There hasn't been significant increases.  As per my cite.  There's been a 12 - 14% decrease.  perhaps you need to contact Axios and argue with them.  Bummer that cases are going down huh?  Sucks big time!

like I said, now... NOW... you shift from total to active - but you haven't the mettle to even offer any data/numbers for active cases. And you dumbPhack, the Axios data reference you initially hyped is not active cases! What a maroon, what a rube you are!  ;D

again, your peaBrain can't interpret what I've just said about your referenced link: "reads like you have no problem blindly accepting a most limited data sampling - of course... that's a part of your brand! Meanwhile you ignore the fact that current estimates of the incubation period range from 1-14 days with median estimates of 5-6 days between infection and the onset of clinical symptoms of COVID-19. While you also ignore that listing of U.S. states that have increased cases... you ignore the influence testing has on case counts while also ignoring all manner of caveats concerning testing (testing methodology, type(s) of testing, number of tests, targeted testing, false negatives, etc..) - of course you ignore it all!"