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Offline waldo

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« Reply #705 on: April 03, 2020, 08:17:14 pm »
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« Reply #706 on: April 03, 2020, 08:25:45 pm »
Quote from: wilber on April 03, 2020, 08:16:53 pm
Trump is turning the US into an international pariah. He is destroying the US brand single handedly.

I disagree....   I can guarantee you that Republicans will be all for this measure.  Trump is a symptom of the Republican Party disease.
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« Reply #707 on: April 03, 2020, 08:40:36 pm »
Quote from: wilber on April 03, 2020, 11:59:05 am
As much as I give JT credit for sounding like a leader at the beginning of this thing, his daily briefings have become an hour long nothing burger. Lots of "we are looking at" and "we are discussing" etc but no specifics on anything other than how much more they are going to spend each day. Other than deploying the military to northern Quebec at Quebec's request, his big thing today was an agreement with Amazon to distribute medical supplies. What medical supples, how much and where they are coming from is never mentioned.

That generally comes later in the ministerial presser.  Trudeau is projecting calm.  He's good at it.  That's why he's out there every day.
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« Reply #708 on: April 03, 2020, 08:50:01 pm »
Quote from: Spectre of Graham on April 03, 2020, 11:18:59 am
Politics isn't broken, he's just willfully ignorant.  He could have learned that by talking and listening to any health professional that advises him.

Politics is broken if we pick leaders like that.  "We", admittedly is not Georgia, but "we" are part of the west, NATO, etc.  If that is happening "we" would be better off going back to royalty, as at least the royal lineage will give us random benevolence occasionally.
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« Reply #709 on: April 03, 2020, 08:51:49 pm »
Quote from: wilber on April 03, 2020, 08:16:53 pm
Trump is turning the US into an international pariah. He is destroying the US brand single handedly.

I never felt this way before but I do now.  It's one thing to elect this type of incompetent but to now approve of him in record numbers... We have to start mitigating this relationship.
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« Reply #710 on: April 03, 2020, 08:57:40 pm »
Quote from: the_squid on April 03, 2020, 08:25:45 pm
I disagree....   I can guarantee you that Republicans will be all for this measure.  Trump is a symptom of the Republican Party disease.

The Republicans don't dictate how the rest of the world views Trump or the US.
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« Reply #711 on: April 03, 2020, 09:06:17 pm »
Quote from: MH on April 03, 2020, 08:50:01 pm
Politics is broken if we pick leaders like that.  "We", admittedly is not Georgia, but "we" are part of the west, NATO, etc.  If that is happening "we" would be better off going back to royalty, as at least the royal lineage will give us random benevolence occasionally.
Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, UK etc. Constitutional monarchies are some of the best countries in the world to live in.
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« Reply #712 on: April 03, 2020, 09:08:34 pm »
Quote from: John Mark Taylor on April 03, 2020, 08:40:36 pm
That generally comes later in the ministerial presser.  Trudeau is projecting calm.  He's good at it.  That's why he's out there every day.

But he isn't saying anything. It's the same old pablum mantra every day.
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« Reply #713 on: April 03, 2020, 09:24:10 pm »
Quote from: MH on April 03, 2020, 08:51:49 pm
I never felt this way before but I do now.  It's one thing to elect this type of incompetent but to now approve of him in record numbers... We have to start mitigating this relationship.

Trump's ignorance, and Republican ignorance in general during this virus, is starting to cost people lives.  Offensive twitter comments don't get me mad, in fact I laugh most of them off, but incompetence that costs lives gets me really mad.  Flashback to George W. Bush.  Hundreds of thousands of lives are at stake once again.

Americans tend to rally around a "war-time" POTUS.  It helped get George Bush re-elected.  For better or worse, they are the United States of America.  We don't have that kind of patriotism here, or the same kind of military-type thinking.
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« Reply #714 on: April 03, 2020, 09:40:54 pm »
Quote from: wilber on April 03, 2020, 09:08:34 pm
But he isn't saying anything. It's the same old pablum mantra every day.

I watched him today, it's annoying when he deflects questions and does the double-speak, he won't answer some of the questions.  Some of them are dumb questions and I don't blame him, others I doubt he has the answers for which I don't blame him either since this stuff is moving quickly and there's no way he can know every detail on the spot spanning every department/agency (the ministers would be better to ask).  I just find the Q&A useless, but he needs to do it.  He's the face of gov't.
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« Reply #715 on: April 03, 2020, 10:55:48 pm »
Quote from: Spectre of Graham on April 03, 2020, 09:24:10 pm
  We don't have that kind of patriotism here, or the same kind of military-type thinking.

Sorry but rallying around the leader and patriotism isn't what's needed, especially when they are helpless egoists.

Ford and Trudeau are making this about health experts and response.  And Americans tend to be suspicious of institutions, so...
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« Reply #716 on: April 03, 2020, 11:47:04 pm »
Quote from: Spectre of Graham on April 03, 2020, 09:40:54 pm
I watched him today, it's annoying when he deflects questions and does the double-speak, he won't answer some of the questions.  Some of them are dumb questions and I don't blame him, others I doubt he has the answers for which I don't blame him either since this stuff is moving quickly and there's no way he can know every detail on the spot spanning every department/agency (the ministers would be better to ask).  I just find the Q&A useless, but he needs to do it.  He's the face of gov't.

If he doesn't really say anything during his update, it's no wonder he gets asked a lot of questions, but he doesn't say anything then either. Really, the only news we get is about what they are going to spend. Other than that, all the real info is coming from the provinces. I don't know that he is trying to mislead anyone but he isn't really informing them either. I've listened to him every morning but have learned very little. Bonnie Henry says more and gives straight answers to more questions in ten minutes than he does in an hour. Anyway, this was our last day of isolation so we will be out walking in the mornings instead of listening to JT.
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« Reply #717 on: April 04, 2020, 12:37:18 am »
I listened through the latest briefing from the WH today on this issue and if ever there was an abundance of evidence for section 4 of the 25th amendment to the US constitution, to be enacted for the benefit of the country it was demonstrated today. Trump contradicted himself so often and so blatantly it could only be due to his loss of any grip on reality. If it were merely his regular bullshit about how many people attended his inauguration etd., then we could all just laugh and open a beer. People's lives are at stake now, and a leader with at least some semblance of competence should be put in place.
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« Reply #718 on: April 04, 2020, 11:02:21 am »
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« Reply #719 on: April 04, 2020, 11:53:13 am »
the simpler times of Feb 25th - National Press Secretary for the 2020 Trump Campaign, Kayleigh McEnany... of course, Fox News:
https://i.imgur.com/aJxHULN.mp4
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