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Offline Granny

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« Reply #675 on: April 02, 2020, 03:07:04 pm »
Ontario is lagging behind the country in testing for the virus, so don’t put too much stock in the lower numbers.  The low numbers are due to Ford gov’t incompetence in actually knowing what’s happening...   except he’s being pretty honest about the situation. 

 https://www.macleans.ca/society/health/coronavirus-in-canada-these-charts-show-how-our-fight-to-flatten-the-curve-is-going/
https://www.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/CORONAVIRUS-CHART-MAR30-02.png

This chart in particular shows an anomalous jump in cases in Quebec in the early stage. Not sure why.

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« Reply #676 on: April 02, 2020, 05:08:27 pm »
Does anyone know why Quebec's numbers are so high?

I thought maybe they're testing more but they seem to have the same criteria as ROC.

significant ties to New York and France; after Feb 28 as last school day, thousands of Quebec spring-breakers drove into the U.S. and flew to Europe/Caribbean on holiday

More than Ontario though?  They have twice the cases as ON.

Did Quebec cancel schooling on Feb 28 you're saying?

Feb 28th was the last day of school in Quebec... before Spring Break. Quebec students returned to school on March 9... and on March 13, after four days of classes, the province closed schools and the federal government advised against non-essential travel outside Canada.

Spring Break dates - Ontario versus Quebec

=> Ontario   March 16 to 20
=> Quebec   March 2 to 9

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« Reply #677 on: April 02, 2020, 05:10:05 pm »

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« Reply #678 on: April 02, 2020, 05:17:42 pm »
Everyone and everything Trump has blamed for his coronavirus response

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“I don’t take responsibility at all.”

That’s what President Trump said this month when asked whether he takes responsibility for the slow rollout of testing that public health officials say handicapped the country’s ability to protect Americans from the coronavirus.

But Trump’s desire to not take responsibility could also be extrapolated to the coronavirus crisis in general. Trump has thrown blame in nearly a dozen different directions for the virus’s spread and different aspects of the response to it.

As he acknowledges that 100,000 to 200,000 Americans could die of the virus, here are the people and places he’s blamed for it, with some added context:

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« Reply #679 on: April 02, 2020, 06:48:06 pm »
Spring Break dates - Ontario versus Quebec

=> Ontario   March 16 to 20
=> Quebec   March 2 to 9

That could definitely have something to do with it.  Also squid mentioned Ontario hasn't done as many tests per capita as other provinces.
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« Reply #680 on: April 02, 2020, 07:20:06 pm »
All the anti-Vaxxers should be the last to get vaccines.
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« Reply #681 on: April 02, 2020, 09:10:45 pm »


Georgia governor says on April 1st that he just found out asymptomatic people can be contagious.

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« Reply #682 on: April 02, 2020, 09:35:51 pm »

Georgia governor says on April 1st that he just found out asymptomatic people can be contagious.

If it wasn't so fkn stupid, it would be funny.

He should be impeached.
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« Reply #683 on: April 02, 2020, 10:41:07 pm »
Georgia governor says on April 1st that he just found out asymptomatic people can be contagious.

Wow.  That's epic incompetence.
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« Reply #684 on: April 02, 2020, 10:57:16 pm »
A friend sent me this yesterday.

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I was in long line 7:45 this morning at Sobeys which opens at 8:00 for seniors only. A young man came from the parking lot and tried to cut in at the front of the line, but an old lady beat him back into the parking lot with her cane. He returned and tried to cut in again but an old man punched him in the gut, kicked him to the ground and rolled him away. As he approached the line for the third time he said, "if you old suckers don't let me unlock the door you will never get in there".
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« Reply #685 on: April 03, 2020, 12:24:10 am »
Last updated: April 03, 2020, 05:11 GMT => U.S. COVID-19 deaths @6095


Doctors And Nurses Say More People Are Dying Of COVID-19 In The US Than We Know

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Doctors and nurses working in several hospitals around the country, who spoke with BuzzFeed News on the condition of not being named out of fear of repercussions, said that the official counts of COVID-19 related deaths are not comprehensive for three main reasons: a lack of tests and protective equipment means not everyone who contracted or dies of COVID-19 is diagnosed; overwhelmed hospitals may be running behind on reporting the numbers to state and county authorities; and some hospitals reporting their totals on a daily basis say they’re not being reflected promptly in county and state reports.

example: extract of the past weeks Illinois Cook County Medical Examiner's website (~5 million population; includes city of Chicago) => a noticeable increase in deaths by "pneumonia" and "acute respiratory distress"... that may or may not be deaths related to COVID-19:

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« Reply #686 on: April 03, 2020, 12:28:46 am »
I'm getting the feeling we're going to be on lockdown for a very long time and they're trying to break us gently with these warnings of being prepared for a few months and 'the next two weeks' are the big tests. 

I started off trying to keep my spirits up, but I think I'm starting to crack and it's only week 3 (or 4?).  I don't know how I can go on like this for 4-6 more months.

Mental health issues aside, what kind of a world are we going to step back into if this goes on for a year or so?  How are governments going to survive the economic impact and what are we going to do with 25% unemployment rate?

What if life as we know it is totally over? 

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« Reply #687 on: April 03, 2020, 12:31:06 am »
Boston Globe - Editorial Board:

A president unfit for a pandemic - Much of the suffering and death coming was preventable. The president has blood on his hands.

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While the spread of the novel coronavirus has been aggressive around the world, much of the profound impact it will have here in the United States was preventable. As the American public braces itself for the worst of this crisis, it’s worth remembering that the reach of the virus here is not attributable to an act of God or a foreign invasion, but a colossal failure of leadership.
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It’s not too much for Americans to ask of their leaders that they be competent and informed when responding to a crisis of historic proportions. Instead, they have a White House marred by corruption and incompetence, whose mixed messages roil the markets and rock their sense of security. Instead of compassion and clarity, the president, in his near-daily addresses to the nation, embodies callousness, self-concern, and a lack of compass. Dangling unverified cures and possible quarantines in front of the public like reality TV cliffhangers, he unsettles rather than reassures. The pandemic reveals that the worst features of this presidency are not merely late-night comedy fodder; they come at the cost of lives, livelihoods, and our collective psyche.

Many pivotal decision points in this crisis are past us, but more are still to come. For our own sake, every American should be hoping for a miraculous turnaround — and that the too-little, too-late strategy of the White House task force will henceforth at least prevent contagion and economic ruin of the grandest scale. But come November, there must be a reckoning for the lives lost, and for the vast, avoidable suffering about to ensue under the president’s watch.
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« Reply #688 on: April 03, 2020, 09:38:12 am »
Wondering ...
https://www.salon.com/2020/04/01/study-republican-governors-slower-to-adopt-coronavirus-restrictions-causing-significant-harm/

"Our findings are unambiguous: political variables are the strongest predictor of the early adoption of social distancing policies," the researchers wrote. "All else equal, states with Republican governors and Republican electorates delayed each social distancing measure by an average of 2.70 days ... a far larger effect than any other factor, including state income per capita, the percentage of neighboring states with mandates, or even confirmed cases in each state."

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« Reply #689 on: April 03, 2020, 10:18:14 am »