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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #660 on: April 01, 2020, 04:24:58 pm »
Brother Spell is preaching the Good Word!!! 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/31/coronavirus-louisiana-pastor-charged-after-holding-large-services/5096839002/
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Rev. Tony Spell of the Life Tabernacle Church in the city of Central, around 15 miles northeast of Baton Rouge, has held services twice a week despite the state orders. He claimed that up to 1,000 churchgoers, bussed in from five different Louisiana parishes, were in attendance.

Louisiana is one of the states most severely affected by coronavirus, with more than 5,000 cases and 239 deaths as of Tuesday, its deadliest day so far.

Central Police Chief Roger Corcoran called Spell’s decision to hold service despite the social distancing orders “reckless and irresponsible.”



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/31/coronavirus-florida-megachurch-pastor-arrested-church-amid-orders/5093160002/

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Officials arrested the pastor of a megachurch after detectives said he held two Sunday services with hundreds of people and violated a safer-at-home order in place to limit the spread of the coronavirus.



Religion poisons everything.  If this is happening in Canada, tear gas and rubber bullets will disperse the crowd and save lives.

This is why we need a f’kn moat between us and America.
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« Reply #661 on: April 01, 2020, 04:54:55 pm »
Does anyone know why Quebec's numbers are so high?

I thought maybe they're testing more but they seem to have the same criteria as ROC. 

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« Reply #662 on: April 01, 2020, 05:03:58 pm »
14 residents in a single nursing home in Ont. dead and it’s likely not contained there yet.   Very sad.

Hoping my old buddy’s home here in town doesn’t get it...  he had to check himself into one after he realized he couldn’t take care of himself any longer.  Then this hit right after....   I haven’t had a chance to visit him yet.
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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #663 on: April 01, 2020, 05:08:27 pm »
Does anyone know why Quebec's numbers are so high?

I thought maybe they're testing more but they seem to have the same criteria as ROC.

Montreal has most cases, no? 

Hopefully this is studied in the months following, but denser cities are going to be hit harder, especially if they don’t act in time (whether they knew to act or not is a different story).  Montreal also has an extensive subway, unlike other cities in Canada....  imagine all those thousands of people with viruses touching the handrails and ticket dispensers...   But that’s me speculating.  Don’t take my word for it.
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« Reply #664 on: April 01, 2020, 06:36:11 pm »
Yes, there's like 2K cases in Monteal.  Toronto has a bigger population though and they have subways as well.  So does Vancouver, but at least ours are mostly above ground and get some fresh air at least.

I read a while back when the border closing talks began that a lot of snow birds came back to Montreal.  They were parked in the Walmart parking lot with their RV's and then hoarded supplies and went home.

They could've brought it with them. 

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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #665 on: April 01, 2020, 06:59:08 pm »
When you think about it... this is actually the kind of thing that could have larger implications in terms of political stability.  Do you think the Reichstag Fire was a big event compared to this ?

Whoa whoa whoa, now you're a paranoid conspiracy nut.
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« Reply #666 on: April 01, 2020, 07:02:31 pm »


cause there's no way Trump could use a national emergency to extend his presidency/admin - nah, could never happen!

6 million Jews were killed in the holocaust > 6 million Jews live in the USA, the same population as Israel > If all Jews get COVID-19 and die, it will be the new jewish holocaust > Trump is the new Hitler
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #667 on: April 01, 2020, 07:24:22 pm »
We were in a meeting today where an advisor to our CIO spoke and said he was worried about border security.

That's interesting, I never really thought of that.

Our government would only stop them for health reasons since immigration and refugee crossings have been stopped.

I wonder how exactly our gov is currently stopping illegal border crossers.  Just watched this clip on the Roxham Road crossing:

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« Reply #668 on: April 01, 2020, 07:41:41 pm »
Whoa whoa whoa, now you're a paranoid conspiracy nut.

in terms of questioning impacts upon political instability, member MH's question is legitimate. Equally, his comparative reference to the purposeful arson fire as a key event in launching a dictatorship holds if one accepts Trump... could/might... leverage a national emergency to stay in office - hence the like waldo question. Long before COVID-19, "many" have spoken/written/speculated on whether Trump would accept an electoral defeat as a legitimate result... Trumps own statements fueled that speculation (conspiracy if you like), particularly his past questioning of election results ...notwithstanding his oft musings to being 'leader for life' (ala Chinese leader Xi Jinping in that position with the removal of term limits). What if Trump won’t accept 2020 defeat?. Only a simpleton... pinhead... would react with a holocaust reach - oh, that was you... carry on!  ;D

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« Reply #669 on: April 01, 2020, 07:45:25 pm »
They aren't stopping illegal border crossings - the US has simply agreed to take them back on a temporary basis.  But, all of this likely breaks international law.

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« Reply #670 on: April 01, 2020, 07:55:55 pm »
They aren't stopping illegal border crossings - the US has simply agreed to take them back on a temporary basis.  But, all of this likely breaks international law.

It might, this is pretty grey area.  Forcing people to quarantine, stopping travel, and forcing businesses to close en masse isn't exactly constitutional either.
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« Reply #671 on: April 01, 2020, 07:57:05 pm »
Does anyone know why Quebec's numbers are so high?

I thought maybe they're testing more but they seem to have the same criteria as ROC.

significant ties to New York and France; after Feb 28 as last school day, thousands of Quebec spring-breakers drove into the U.S. and flew to Europe/Caribbean on holiday

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« Reply #672 on: April 01, 2020, 08:57:40 pm »
Interesting that a Hasidic Jewish community in Montreal is under quarantine.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/boisbriand-releases-plan-to-enforce-quarantine-among-tosh-community/
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« Reply #673 on: April 01, 2020, 10:32:46 pm »
significant ties to New York and France; after Feb 28 as last school day, thousands of Quebec spring-breakers drove into the U.S. and flew to Europe/Caribbean on holiday

More than Ontario though?  They have twice the cases as ON.

Did Quebec cancel schooling on Feb 28 you're saying?
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« Reply #674 on: April 02, 2020, 02:55:43 am »
More than Ontario though?  They have twice the cases as ON.

Ontario is lagging behind the country in testing for the virus, so don’t put too much stock in the lower numbers.  The low numbers are due to Ford gov’t incompetence in actually knowing what’s happening...   except he’s being pretty honest about the situation. 

 
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As Ontario announced 426 more cases of COVID-19 on Wednesday, a 22 per cent daily increase, officials in the province offered stark warnings of what is coming. “There’s very little separating what we will face here in Ontario from the devastation we’ve seen in Italy and Spain,” said Ontario Premier Doug Ford. “We know a surge is coming.”


In Ontario, politicians and public health experts are facing increased criticism, in part because, while the number of cases surge, the province’s low rate of testing is far short of Alberta and British Columbia on a per capita basis, and nearly half that of Canada as a whole. On Monday, the province removed the statistic on its testing backlog from its public website, only to return it after an outcry on social media. (It is down to about 3,000 from more than 10,000 in the last few days.)


https://www.macleans.ca/society/health/coronavirus-in-canada-these-charts-show-how-our-fight-to-flatten-the-curve-is-going/
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