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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #600 on: March 27, 2020, 02:23:54 pm »
John Kerry is currently my favorite US politician bahaha.

https://twitter.com/JohnKerry/status/1243552337429438464

He isn’t a politician any longer.
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #601 on: March 27, 2020, 05:13:10 pm »
He isn’t a politician any longer.

Guess thats why he has the balls to say the word a$$hole.
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« Reply #602 on: March 27, 2020, 08:22:10 pm »
This is bordering on brain-dead.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/03/27/some-toronto-bus-routes-still-crowded-despite-covid-19-what-about-social-distancing.html

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One bus driver who spoke to the Star on Friday said his early morning bus on Steeles Ave. West had been full each of the previous three days. The driver, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the TTC hadn’t authorized him to speak to media, said he was concerned for both himself and his passengers. 
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #603 on: March 27, 2020, 09:29:07 pm »
I wonder what people can do if they rely on public transit?  I feel bad for them.
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« Reply #604 on: March 27, 2020, 09:49:28 pm »
How the **** is a global pandemic turned into a partisan issue. Some of you need to step away from your keyboards for a minute and take a long look at the people around you.
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« Reply #605 on: March 28, 2020, 12:41:46 am »
Waldo the USA has the 3rd largest population in the world that does more global business than anyone plus a big population of Chinese and Italian diaspora.  No sh!t they're gonna have a lot of cases.  New York State has around half the country's cases, gee I wonder why.  It's not because they're stupid.

You're right.  The data columns of the site Waldo is using can be sorted.  If you look at death by 1 million people US is 20th.

ETA - I'm more concerned with deaths per 1mil than cases because testing obviously makes a difference.  Deaths can be misreported too but not as badly.

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« Reply #606 on: March 28, 2020, 04:28:30 am »
New York State has around half the country's cases, gee I wonder why.  It's not because they're stupid.

don't wonder... let the waldo learn ya! It's called testing; the most recent number I've seen has NY state test numbers @ ~125,000. Washington State has tested less than ~35,000... California less than 25,000 (although I interpret there are some ~50,000 test results pending... as California has ramped up its testing).

aside from the OrangeMan's idiocy, incompetence and dithering, there are key influences that cost the U.S. 2 months of lead-up testing time/results that would have significantly impacted upon U.S. pandemic preparedness:

COVID-19 Is Not a Black Swan. Trump Is the Black Swan --- The problem isn't that America couldn't plan for a pandemic. It's that we couldn't plan for a president so incompetent that he failed to follow the most basic protocols for fighting a pandemic. 

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When it comes to managing an outbreak, testing is the foundation on which everything else rests.

And the ability to test widely and quickly is of maximum importance at the beginning, before the outbreak reaches critical mass.

The U.S. seems to be finally catching up to the rest of the world in terms of testing capability as a matter of raw numbers, but in terms of total testing capacity relative to the populace, we’re still far below where we need to be.

And that 12 week period between the revelation of outbreak in Wuhan and the arrival of COVID-19 in America is time we cannot get back.

Please understand that this lag period is the defining mistake in what is happening right now in America. Everything would be different—everything—if the government had rushed production of effective testing that could be processed on-site.

And please understand that what I’m talking about isn’t a moonshot. It’s the basic blocking and tackling of epidemiology.

You're right.  The data columns of the site Waldo is using can be sorted.  If you look at death by 1 million people US is 20th.

ETA - I'm more concerned with deaths per 1mil than cases because testing obviously makes a difference.  Deaths can be misreported too but not as badly.

deaths/million population is meaningless given the many disparate regions across the U.S. - with respective regions having their own socio-cultural reasons that contribute to the rate of spread... notwithstanding the lack of cohesive mandated strategies to help deal with the rate of spread; notwithstanding, many U.S. states have been late to adopt mitigation actions, if at all! The level of testing is key and right now insufficient testing is occurring to allow recognition and accompanying actions to be properly assigned - hence the continued exponential rise in cases, with the ever increasing death numbers.


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« Reply #607 on: March 28, 2020, 01:16:19 pm »
geezaz, and yes as member MH highlighted, this moron's popularity has risen and is being attributed to his "superb handling" of the response to COVID-19. What a dumbFn'Country!

https://i.imgur.com/F9JiUvw.mp4
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #608 on: March 28, 2020, 02:06:04 pm »
geezaz, and yes as member MH highlighted, this moron's popularity has risen and is being attributed to his "superb handling" of the response to COVID-19. What a dumbFn'Country!

Uh no, people rally around the POTUS during an emergency.  Remember 9/11, Iraq War?  Hopefully it hits the sh!ts after this is over.

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« Reply #609 on: March 28, 2020, 02:51:48 pm »
Ontario Under-reporting cases by a third.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/03/27/ontario-has-missed-a-third-or-more-covid-19-cases-as-testing-backlog-has-grown-star-analysis-finds.html

By comparison, BC has no backlog, although it’s not without its problems.  However, BC has the capacity to do many more tests per day than Ontario. 

The lack of national standards with respect to health is appalling. 
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« Reply #610 on: March 28, 2020, 03:41:16 pm »
Global death rate is now 4.6%.
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« Reply #611 on: March 29, 2020, 01:44:23 am »
Conrad Black wrote an article in the National Post about how overblown the reaction to the pandemic has been.  It’s akin to yelling “fire” in a crowded theatre.  Once this is over, he should be charged criminally. 
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« Reply #612 on: March 29, 2020, 08:24:31 am »
The stats here are all inaccurate. There’s different tests with varying accuracy and different criteria for testing everywhere. Comparisons are difficult if not impossible right now. It’s going to be more than a year before we have a clear picture of this thing, imo.
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« Reply #613 on: March 29, 2020, 11:48:49 am »
U.S. COVID-19 death projections: Fauci 'worst case' // Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME)


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« Reply #614 on: March 29, 2020, 12:03:38 pm »
Fauci is now the prime target of the MAGA crowd. He was on Trevor Noah a few nights ago. I found him quite impressive and he came across as a no BS professional. Just the facts. It's no wonder they are afraid of him.
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