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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #540 on: March 25, 2020, 02:23:54 am »
A lot of Ottawa insiders are pretty sure that the 2022 date was an unintentional mistake made by someone drafting the bill from today.  The government apparently intended to try for December 2020 as the end date.  I can't confirm any of that, of course.

C'mon you don't believe that do you?

Sounds like damage control twitter nonsense.
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« Reply #541 on: March 25, 2020, 02:24:19 am »
Hey as much as I enjoy being a member of this forum and expressing my thoughts as we push back and forth as to our political preferences, I'd like to take just a moment to call a bit of a recess and say to all members I wish you all well in emerging from this very serious situation just as well as you entered into it. We can argue and agree until the cows come home and that's what keeps us interested. For now I just want to wish every one good health.

Same to you and your loved ones.
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« Reply #542 on: March 25, 2020, 05:53:17 am »
We're in a situation where 20% of Canadians are going to be unemployed (at least) and where if we don't act, over 1M Canadians could die.  If anything, this isn't strong enough.

21 months? Please. 3 months, even six then look at it again but 21 is just a blatant power grab. Doesn’t take much for you to throw democracy in the bin if it is a Liberal doing it.

In the meantime, pass the existing spending motion and get on with it.
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« Reply #543 on: March 25, 2020, 08:50:15 am »
C'mon you don't believe that do you?

Sounds like damage control twitter nonsense.

It wasn't put forward by Liberals - or I'd agree.

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« Reply #544 on: March 25, 2020, 11:11:48 am »
It seems to have been settled for the present. I can appreciate the government's concern about getting things done when Parliament may not be able to sit but 21 months was way over the top. Get a virtual parliament going online. Hopefully our party leaders can now put their political instincts aside and work together to do what is right for the country. It has been done before and provincial legislatures seem able to do it.
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« Reply #545 on: March 25, 2020, 11:35:33 am »
Today shows why they needed this extra power, even if they didn't get as much as they wanted.  Because of the number of requests for assistance, the direct support package has went from $27B to $52B.  We can't spend another 8 days getting there. 

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« Reply #546 on: March 25, 2020, 11:40:18 am »
EI payments are going to be a disaster.  1 million+ people making claims at the same time.  They just don't have the staff to process those, not even close.  Even before COVID it usually takes a 3-4 weeks for Service Canada to process a claim and for an applicant to start getting their payments.  They've hired new EI workers from other gov departments, but they need to be trained, and then they'll have little experience especially with complex claims.  Hopefully they can get up and going fast.

Meanwhile, it was impossible even before COVID to get through on the EI phone line to ask questions about your claim even before the crisis, they wouldn't even let you go on hold because there was so much volume on the phone lines.  That was with record low unemployment.  Now it's going to be a sh!t-show.

If people don't have money they can't make their mortgage payments, if people aren't making them then banks will have a sharp drop in revenue, putting the banks and the banking system at risk, flashback to 2008.  Feds may have to bail them out (loans).
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« Reply #547 on: March 25, 2020, 11:47:00 am »
Today shows why they needed this extra power, even if they didn't get as much as they wanted.  Because of the number of requests for assistance, the direct support package has went from $27B to $52B.  We can't spend another 8 days getting there.

Yes they need short-term power to inject money into the economy ASAP wherever/whenever needed.  Sh*t is going to hit the fan as people start to miss bill and mortgage/rent payments over the next month, especially 1st of the month.

If people can't pay their rent, people with investment property can't pay their mortgages.  I'd never own an investment property.  I wonder how the real estate market will get through all this.  My guess is it's going to come down to loans from the fed for banks.
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« Reply #548 on: March 25, 2020, 11:57:22 am »
It wasn't put forward by Liberals - or I'd agree.

Then they would have no 1st hand knowledge of the situation.

I just don't believe it, without evidence.  I'm not a fool.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #549 on: March 25, 2020, 12:00:00 pm »
EI payments are going to be a disaster.  1 million+ people making claims at the same time.  They just don't have the staff to process those, not even close.  Even before COVID it usually takes a 3-4 weeks for Service Canada to process a claim and for an applicant to start getting their payments.  They've hired new EI workers from other gov departments, but they need to be trained, and then they'll have little experience especially with complex claims.  Hopefully they can get up and going fast.

Meanwhile, it was impossible even before COVID to get through on the EI phone line to ask questions about your claim even before the crisis, they wouldn't even let you go on hold because there was so much volume on the phone lines.  That was with record low unemployment.  Now it's going to be a sh!t-show.

If people don't have money they can't make their mortgage payments, if people aren't making them then banks will have a sharp drop in revenue, putting the banks and the banking system at risk, flashback to 2008.  Feds may have to bail them out (loans).

People apply online right ?  They could just forgo manual checks as needed...

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« Reply #550 on: March 25, 2020, 12:08:50 pm »
EI payments are going to be a disaster.  1 million+ people making claims at the same time.  They just don't have the staff to process those, not even close.

They are shutting down all tax processing and using the extra staff from there.  Everyone will be funneled into the new program and the money is to go out with few requirements in 10 days from Apr 6.

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« Reply #551 on: March 25, 2020, 12:19:17 pm »
Holy doodle, I'm just now hearing that Prince Charles has tested positive. At 93 years of age that could be a tough slog. I guess the Queen will have to kick him into the basement for awhile.

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« Reply #552 on: March 25, 2020, 12:28:37 pm »
Holy doodle, I'm just now hearing that Prince Charles has tested positive. At 93 years of age that could be a tough slog. I guess the Queen will have to kick him into the basement for awhile.

I made that mistake too Omni...

Prince Charles isn't her hubby, it's her baby son...

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« Reply #553 on: March 25, 2020, 12:33:41 pm »
I made that mistake too Omni...

Prince Charles isn't her hubby, it's her baby son...

Ah yes, I stand corrected, thank you. It hit me just after I hit the post button I said "wait a minute".
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« Reply #554 on: March 25, 2020, 12:37:13 pm »
The Royals will be fine....   except maybe the very oldest.  But they will have respirators and the best medical care available.   It’s the plebes who will be on a gurney in the hallways waiting for respirators to free up that will be the ones who die.

Don’t worry...  the very wealthy will be just fine.
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