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Offline wilber

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« Reply #525 on: March 24, 2020, 09:25:35 pm »
Imagine if the Trump administration could be taken down by a confidence motion before his term was up. Imagine if Canada had the same political system as the US. Imagine little pink unicorns dancing on the head of a pin.

Trudeau is using the situation to strong arm dictatorial powers. The opposition has already said they won't obstruct the spending part of the bill.
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« Reply #526 on: March 24, 2020, 09:30:25 pm »
It's now called the Emergency Measures Act and yes they could. Trudeau has already discussed it with the provinces.

Well, if you want to be technical about it, it's called the Emergencies Act.

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« Reply #527 on: March 24, 2020, 09:31:11 pm »
Trudeau is using the situation to strong arm dictatorial powers. The opposition has already said they won't obstruct the spending part of the bill.

We're in a situation where 20% of Canadians are going to be unemployed (at least) and where if we don't act, over 1M Canadians could die.  If anything, this isn't strong enough.
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #528 on: March 24, 2020, 09:38:36 pm »
Right now? Of course I would.  At least to September 30th.  That's what the Bloc has gotten the Liberals to agree to.  They can't increase taxes, but can borrow without consent until September 30th.



Sept is at least somewhat reasonable.
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« Reply #529 on: March 24, 2020, 09:44:40 pm »


Sept is at least somewhat reasonable.

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« Reply #530 on: March 24, 2020, 10:00:48 pm »
We're in a situation where 20% of Canadians are going to be unemployed (at least) and where if we don't act, over 1M Canadians could die.  If anything, this isn't strong enough.

I'm not against giving the gov emergency spending power for a limited time.  2 years is ridiculous.  4-6 months past start of government fiscal is much more reasonable, and can always be extended.  They could put in a clause that if 2 non-Liberal parties in Parliament want the spending power stopped at any time before the 6 months is up, it could be done.  That would probably be agreed by the parties.

They need to inject money fast.  They should raise EI payouts, possibly extend the 36 week limit, lower the weeks needed to qualify etc.  Everyone should have a few weeks salary saved for emergencies, but many don't.  They might after this.

We need to shore up the healthcare community, we need to protect our doctors and nurses.  We need to get gloves, masks, goggles, sanitizer produced and shipped to them, makeshift tents/beds ready just in case etc.  More of a provincial matter but the feds need to help.
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« Reply #531 on: March 24, 2020, 10:05:37 pm »
Find that dumb **** entertaining do ya?

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« Reply #533 on: March 24, 2020, 11:51:36 pm »
asswipeTrump is always looking for an excuse, someone to blame, someone to target (negative) media attention towards - while always deflecting away from his own incompetence. In recent days NY Governor Cuomo has established a presence/profile... a following, in how he has positively handled daily update pressers on the state of COVID-19 in NY City/State. Clearly, Trump has been rattled over the comparisons being drawn between he and Cuomo - rattled to the point where Trump is now openly criticizing Cuomo. The following short vid was from today's T-Force presser where medical expert Dr. Birx is responding to questions about COVID-19 in NY City... she completely ignores Trump interrupting her where he attempts to draw her into taking the bait with his "Do you blame the Governor for that" - the swarmy look on Trump says it all!

https://i.imgur.com/ulaK9KF.mp4
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« Reply #534 on: March 25, 2020, 12:09:20 am »
for total COVID-19 cases, there are projections for the U.S. to overtake Italy... possibly even China... by this Friday! USA, USA, USA...


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« Reply #535 on: March 25, 2020, 12:19:02 am »
A lot of Ottawa insiders are pretty sure that the 2022 date was an unintentional mistake made by someone drafting the bill from today.  The government apparently intended to try for December 2020 as the end date.  I can't confirm any of that, of course.

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« Reply #536 on: March 25, 2020, 12:40:46 am »
from the Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team: the study (early draft) that significantly influenced current UK, US/Canada policy decisions... that finally got Trump/Fox to back off the nattering claims that "the Chinese virus" was nothing more than a Democrat hoax intended to negatively influence Trump's reelection!

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The Imperial College London group reported that if nothing was done by governments and individuals and the pandemic remained uncontrolled, 510,000 would die in Britain and 2.2 million in the United States over the course of the outbreak.

If Britain and the United States pursued more-ambitious measures to mitigate the spread of the coronavirus, to slow but not necessarily stop the epidemic over the coming few months, they could reduce mortality by half, to 260,000 people in the United Kingdom and 1.1 million in the United States.
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« Reply #537 on: March 25, 2020, 01:01:08 am »

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« Reply #538 on: March 25, 2020, 01:56:08 am »
Hey as much as I enjoy being a member of this forum and expressing my thoughts as we push back and forth as to our political preferences, I'd like to take just a moment to call a bit of a recess and say to all members I wish you all well in emerging from this very serious situation just as well as you entered into it. We can argue and agree until the cows come home and that's what keeps us interested. For now I just want to wish every one good health.
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« Reply #539 on: March 25, 2020, 02:07:09 am »
And if you don't agree I'll come and punch your lights out. :D