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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #315 on: March 17, 2020, 06:00:43 pm »
You don't think Trudeau has the power to lock the gates tomorrow if he felt he needed to? He does and he said this morning he will if his medical advisors tell him it's necessary.

Trudeau doesn't see travel as a priority for stopping the illness and never has.  His own wife got sick from travel and he's still soft-stepping around.

They are now telling people who have traveled to self-isolate.  Obviously travel is the major issue.  It's the only way this spread into a new area.  Once it's in an area then crowds and close contact become a problem.  We have done well with the latter, not the former.
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« Reply #316 on: March 17, 2020, 06:02:01 pm »
Italians were the first to shut down their borders to China, yet look where they are now.  It's true that travel bans don't work.

However, a bit part of why Italy got where it did is because 10,000 Northern Italians fled to other parts of the country and took the virus with them.  That's the part that scares me about the US border.  With their crap leadership, there are going to be a lot of Americans coming to Canada for a safe haven and making things worse for us. 

As it stands it'll be difficult.  We don't need to take care of Americans fleeing their country as well.

You are an American with no coverage, go to Canada. By the time all the immigration appeals are over, the pandemic will be long gone.
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« Reply #317 on: March 17, 2020, 06:05:39 pm »
It's like the reaction of someone who has been abused toward their abuser. Frankly I think it is idiotic and criminal if that is the reason.

Agreed but at the same time I don't envy Trudeau. 

Protecting people and businesses at the same time.  Shutting borders and being diplomatic at the same time.  This crisis is uncharted territory, I would not want to be PM right now.

Compared to Trump and Boris Johnson, I think we've got it pretty good.
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #318 on: March 17, 2020, 07:15:01 pm »
Agreed but at the same time I don't envy Trudeau. 

Protecting people and businesses at the same time.  Shutting borders and being diplomatic at the same time.  This crisis is uncharted territory, I would not want to be PM right now.

Compared to Trump and Boris Johnson, I think we've got it pretty good.

It isn't an easy situation for sure.  But big emergencies seem to happen every decade or so (9/11, 2008 financial crisis etc), this is what a PM signs up to manage, where they earn their paycheck.  A PM's is always putting out fires whether big or small.
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« Reply #319 on: March 17, 2020, 07:28:31 pm »
Agreed but at the same time I don't envy Trudeau. 

Protecting people and businesses at the same time.  Shutting borders and being diplomatic at the same time.  This crisis is uncharted territory, I would not want to be PM right now.

Compared to Trump and Boris Johnson, I think we've got it pretty good.

I don't envy him either but he wanted the job and unfortunately, little bugs don't know or care about sunny ways. Leaders always go in with great plans but fate has a habit of throwing a wrench in them.

EU countries are starting to close their borders to each other and they have economic and political ties greater than ours.

The future will pass judgement on all leaders, we'll have to wait and see how it all turns out.
Regardless how much we dislike some of them, we have to hope they all do a good job with this.
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« Reply #320 on: March 17, 2020, 07:42:56 pm »
It isn't an easy situation for sure.  But big emergencies seem to happen every decade or so (9/11, 2008 financial crisis etc), this is what a PM signs up to manage, where they earn their paycheck.  A PM's is always putting out fires whether big or small.

You actually think a PM runs so he/she can handle a 9/11 or a virus outbreak? NO, they sign up to handle the day to day business of government activities. Do you think JT said when he ran he hoped a pandemic would occur so he could enjoy trying to put it out? Give your head a shake.


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« Reply #322 on: March 17, 2020, 07:52:27 pm »
Flu is like 0.1% fatality rate in US.

COVID-19 death rate in USA is 1.8%.  Canada is 1.03%

Italy rate is 8%. Maybe cuz of old population?  Or testing differences too?  Or people have had it longer than people in USA?

Worldwide death rate is now 4% as of today.  https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200317-sitrep-57-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=a26922f2_2
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« Reply #323 on: March 17, 2020, 07:57:05 pm »
Flu is like 0.1% fatality rate in US.

COVID-19 death rate in USA is 1.8%.  Canada is 1.03%

Italy rate is 8%. Maybe cuz of old population?  Or testing differences too?  Or people have had it longer than people in USA?

Worldwide death rate is now 4% as of today.  https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200317-sitrep-57-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=a26922f2_2

Simple, you can't determine the fatality rate until you know the rate of in infection. The reason the US fatality rate is so high is because Trump has been so slow in providing proper testing.
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« Reply #324 on: March 17, 2020, 07:57:43 pm »
You actually think a PM runs so he/she can handle a 9/11 or a virus outbreak? NO, they sign up to handle the day to day business of government activities. Do you think JT said when he ran he hoped a pandemic would occur so he could enjoy trying to put it out? Give your head a shake.

I said it's part of their job, not what you just put in my mouth.  I don't feel sorry for him because it's his job and he signed up for this.  But it is a tough job.
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« Reply #325 on: March 17, 2020, 08:00:35 pm »
Hey maybe I'll go get a flying job again to help out with the current situation.

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Whoa wait, why do you support Nazis, and why are you anti-semitic?  I also disagree with your position that black people are racially inferior to white people, it's sick.
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« Reply #326 on: March 17, 2020, 08:06:07 pm »
I said it's part of their job, not what you just put in my mouth.  I don't feel sorry for him because it's his job and he signed up for this.  But it is a tough job.

Your words were "that's what PM's sign up for" referring to 9-11 and such. I didn't put those words in your mouth, I only pointed out how silly they were.

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« Reply #327 on: March 17, 2020, 08:07:40 pm »
Whoa wait, why do you support Nazis, and why are you anti-semitic?  I also disagree with your position that black people are racially inferior to white people, it's sick.

Um, have you gone off your meds or something?
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« Reply #328 on: March 17, 2020, 08:09:20 pm »
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EU countries are starting to close their borders to each other and they have economic and political ties greater than ours.

Which country  that is closing its border has the economic ties to its neighbour more than Canada has to the US?
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« Reply #329 on: March 17, 2020, 08:18:13 pm »
Which country  that is closing its border has the economic ties to its neighbour more than Canada has to the US?

Do you know what the EU even is?

Do you know what the Schengen Area is?
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