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Offline wilber

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« Reply #270 on: March 16, 2020, 10:51:44 pm »
The travel ban is useless....as are all travel bans.

It has two purposes.  One is to placate people who think that travel bans aren't useless.  The other, is to streamline the flow of people entering the country, meaning they spend less time waiting for the CBSA to screen them, meaning they have a lower chance of infection in the airport.

Most visitors from the US arrive at land borders. If Canadians need to self isolate when returning, why are Americans allowed  to enter and roam scott free? Answer that simple question. Are we trying to limit a pandemic or just be PC and not offend Americans while it runs away on us. Our health care system does not have the capacity to cope if it gets away. We will be like Italy where people are dying untreated because the system just doesn’t have the capacity to treat them.
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« Reply #271 on: March 16, 2020, 10:58:26 pm »
Outside of China, there have been 319 confirmed cases and 1 death.  Do the math.

Again - the world response has been great at stopping this virus.  For most of us though, it should be treated as a non event.

This was you on Feb 12. I replied that the math was far from done. Who was right and who is still treating this as a none event? Six counties in the SFBay Area just locked down. Over six million people.
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« Reply #272 on: March 16, 2020, 11:03:36 pm »
US food exports to Canada are worth 24B US a year. We are their largest export market. Do you think they would just throw that away out of spite? What a bunch of chickenshits.

You talk like the President is actually a stable genius.  He doesn't care.  It's all about him. 
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« Reply #273 on: March 16, 2020, 11:13:00 pm »
You talk like the President is actually a stable genius.  He doesn't care.  It's all about him.
You know something John, Trump was right about us. Spineless.
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« Reply #274 on: March 16, 2020, 11:42:04 pm »
1,800 deaths in Italy from Corona.  That's over half a 9/11.
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« Reply #275 on: March 16, 2020, 11:56:51 pm »
You know something John, Trump was right about us. Spineless.

We're certainly not spineless, but he certainly is stupid.

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« Reply #276 on: March 17, 2020, 12:04:15 am »
If Canada closes any part of the border without American agreement, kiss all our exports goodbye. “State of emergency...   America first...  Make America Great Again...”.

And who will Americans rally behind;  the Cmdr in Chief?   Or diseased Canadian exports?   It would take months, if not years to fix the damage Trump would unleash once the virus is done with us. 
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« Reply #278 on: March 17, 2020, 08:32:05 am »
Why not to take a plane ...

https://torontolife.com/city/it-feels-post-apocalyptic-what-its-like-to-be-a-flight-attendant-during-coronavirus/

They’re meant to clean the tray tables between every flight, but I haven’t seen that happen. I even heard someone ask if they should clean all the tray tables, and their colleague responded, “No, there’s no time.

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« Reply #279 on: March 17, 2020, 08:47:30 am »
If Canada closes any part of the border without American agreement, kiss all our exports goodbye. “State of emergency...   America first...  Make America Great Again...”.

And who will Americans rally behind;  the Cmdr in Chief?   Or diseased Canadian exports?   It would take months, if not years to fix the damage Trump would unleash once the virus is done with us.

Rally around him for what, restricting non essential travel? Give me an effing break. Spineless!
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« Reply #280 on: March 17, 2020, 08:56:26 am »
Most visitors from the US arrive at land borders. If Canadians need to self isolate when returning, why are Americans allowed  to enter and roam scott free? Answer that simple question. Are we trying to limit a pandemic or just be PC and not offend Americans while it runs away on us. Our health care system does not have the capacity to cope if it gets away. We will be like Italy where people are dying untreated because the system just doesn’t have the capacity to treat them.

I assume everyone coming in has to self-isolate, and would want to like we all are.
However, there's a lot of daily traffic both ways across the border every day, people working & living on different sides. Not sure how that works.

I have another question:
What about people in Canada on a visitor's visa that is expiring, who are required to do the border hop to renew their visas?
If they've been here for a while are isolating like everyone else, and have no symptoms ... wouldn't they be better to stay put and renew online?
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« Reply #281 on: March 17, 2020, 09:02:40 am »
I assume everyone coming in has to self-isolate, and would want to like we all are.
However, there's a lot of daily traffic both ways across the border every day, people working & living on different sides. Not sure how that works.

I have another question:
What about people in Canada on a visitor's visa that is expiring, who are required to do the border hop to renew their visas?
If they've been here for a while are isolating like everyone else, and have no symptoms ... wouldn't they be better to stay put and renew online?

Where are they going to self isolate? Do you think they are coming up here to sit in a bunker for two weeks?

I agree on the visa thing.  In that case it would be sensible to make temporary allowances. Better for them to stay put than be travelling across borders.
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« Reply #282 on: March 17, 2020, 09:34:07 am »
Trudeau and BC health minister not on same page when it comes to border restrictions.

https://thetyee.ca/News/2020/03/16/BC-Blasts-Trudeau-Decision-Not-To-Close-US-Border/
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« Reply #283 on: March 17, 2020, 10:32:09 am »
If Canada closes any part of the border without American agreement, kiss all our exports goodbye. “State of emergency...   America first...  Make America Great Again...”.

And who will Americans rally behind;  the Cmdr in Chief?   Or diseased Canadian exports?   It would take months, if not years to fix the damage Trump would unleash once the virus is done with us.

What needs to be considered is not only trucks bringing imports/exports, but everyday people drive across the border each day to work in Canada/US.

All trade needs to continue.  The CBSA should turn away people on pleasure trips, hitting up Target etc.  I expect not as many people will do that now but we should still stop it when it does.
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« Reply #284 on: March 17, 2020, 10:36:07 am »
A few weeks ago people were slamming Trump for his travel restrictions, now Trudeau is doing similar for international travel but is far too late with it.  People's hatred for Trump is completely unhinged.
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