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Offline cybercoma

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« Reply #135 on: March 10, 2020, 09:59:40 am »
Quote from: John Mark Taylor on March 01, 2020, 10:23:43 am
Are we all dead yet?
Look. It's not worth panicking about yet, but let's not be so cavalier about it. This is likely many times more deadly than the regular flu. The elderly are particular at risk with a high death rate. COVID-19 is highly contagious and people will die from it and it's likely that millions will eventually contract it. For the vast majority of people it will just be like any other flu, but make no mistake, many, many people will die.
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« Reply #136 on: March 10, 2020, 10:04:26 am »
Quote from: John Mark Taylor on March 09, 2020, 09:51:12 pm
It's crazy that the numbers in Italy are 10x the numbers in South Korea.
Numbers have been blowing up due to more rigorous testing. Not necessarily increasing infections.
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« Reply #137 on: March 10, 2020, 01:41:23 pm »
Quote from: cybercoma on March 10, 2020, 10:04:26 am
Numbers have been blowing up due to more rigorous testing. Not necessarily increasing infections.

I'm talking about the death rate.  it's 0.6% in South Korea, and 5% in Italy.
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« Reply #138 on: March 10, 2020, 01:42:09 pm »
Quote from: cybercoma on March 10, 2020, 09:59:40 am
Look. It's not worth panicking about yet, but let's not be so cavalier about it. This is likely many times more deadly than the regular flu. The elderly are particular at risk with a high death rate. COVID-19 is highly contagious and people will die from it and it's likely that millions will eventually contract it. For the vast majority of people it will just be like any other flu, but make no mistake, many, many people will die.

I think I'm more responding to media sensationalism than actual seriousness.
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« Reply #139 on: March 10, 2020, 02:23:02 pm »
There are now 110,000 cases of which 29,000 are outside of China. Canada got our first case confirmed on January 27, and we are now up to 62 cases. Another interesting metric is how many countries have confirmed a case. If we just look at the first 9 days of this month we can see that it is spreading rapidly:

March 1 - 62
March 2 - 68
March 3 - 76
March 4 - 80
March 5 - 85
March 6 - 89
March 7 - 94
March 8 - 102
March 9 - 105
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Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #140 on: March 10, 2020, 02:30:34 pm »
Quote from: John Mark Taylor on March 10, 2020, 01:42:09 pm
I think I'm more responding to media sensationalism than actual seriousness.

1) Is it the same strain
2) Do they really know how many have it ?
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« Reply #141 on: March 10, 2020, 02:47:58 pm »
Quote from: MH on March 10, 2020, 02:30:34 pm
1) Is it the same strain
2) Do they really know how many have it ?

It seems to depend heavily on what "they" you are talking about. Death rates vary widely, due in large part to country's ability to test. A chart I recently looked at shows for instance the death rate in the US is 5.9%, while in South Korea it is 0.6%. The slow reaction by the US to provide test kits compared to that of S. Korea is a major cause of the influx. I suspect death rates in the US will fall once they get testing increased. Of course age demographics also have a significant impact.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #142 on: March 10, 2020, 03:05:11 pm »
I think you got it right Omni
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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #143 on: March 10, 2020, 05:27:40 pm »
First death in Canada, was in his 80's in an old age home with underlying health problems.  Canada's death rate is 1.2% based on that.  79 cases as of today.
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« Reply #144 on: March 10, 2020, 05:30:51 pm »
Everyone in the world needs to stop traveling for like a month.  If you don't travel it's extremely difficult to spread.  Countries should have clamped down hard on travel a month ago.  We should be banning non-essential travel to and from places like Italy, South Korea, China.
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« Reply #145 on: March 11, 2020, 12:21:28 am »
geezaz! It just got real! Not a single roll of TP to be found at my local Save-On... a freakin' empty aisle!



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« Reply #146 on: March 11, 2020, 12:46:58 am »
Quote from: COVID-19 Graham on March 10, 2020, 05:30:51 pm
Everyone in the world needs to stop traveling for like a month.  If you don't travel it's extremely difficult to spread.  Countries should have clamped down hard on travel a month ago.  We should be banning non-essential travel to and from places like Italy, South Korea, China.

Many people have to travel for work. I used to be one of those. I wonder if my boss would have happily continued to pay me for staying home. I suspect not since that would have seriously reduced the accounts receivable.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #147 on: March 11, 2020, 07:19:46 am »
Quote from: Omni on March 11, 2020, 12:46:58 am
Many people have to travel for work. I used to be one of those. I wonder if my boss would have happily continued to pay me for staying home. I suspect not since that would have seriously reduced the accounts receivable.

This is part of having a business. 

You have an implied obligation to take care of your people... of course it's not required but those times when you ask extra of people will come into play in these situations.
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« Reply #148 on: March 11, 2020, 11:35:14 am »
Quote from: MH on March 11, 2020, 07:19:46 am
This is part of having a business. 

You have an implied obligation to take care of your people... of course it's not required but those times when you ask extra of people will come into play in these situations.

You can't take care of your people if you go bankrupt and that is what a lot of companies will be facing if this goes on for any length of time.
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« Reply #149 on: March 11, 2020, 12:03:43 pm »
Quote from: wilber on March 11, 2020, 11:35:14 am
You can't take care of your people if you go bankrupt and that is what a lot of companies will be facing if this goes on for any length of time.

I get that.  My experience is that business people cry poor too often.
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