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« Reply #3030 on: April 04, 2021, 08:17:06 pm »
On this evenings news. The Canucks have been hit by the P1 variant and some of them are quite sick. Family members also infected. Royal Columbian ER physician saying ICU's are filling up and they are seeing very sick 30 somethings up to and including intubation. Take care folks, this variant is no joke and if you get a chance at any vaccine, take it.
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« Reply #3031 on: April 04, 2021, 11:02:10 pm »
...8 days...14 hrs...54 min and 59...58...57 secs to go.
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« Reply #3032 on: April 05, 2021, 10:51:54 am »
At this point they should flip the priorities. If Astrazenca should only go to people above 55, that's all that should be available to people above 55.

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines should be given to people in hot spots that work in sectors were social distancing is impossible.

Those are the people that are driving this surge. Banning people from eating on a patio or getting a freaking haircut is an punitive and, quite frankly, an immoral approach to dealing with this pandemic.

Young people bore the economic effects of this virus in the early days, and now they're suffering from the variants that are making them way more sick.
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« Reply #3033 on: April 05, 2021, 11:28:37 am »
Young people bore the economic effects of this virus in the early days, and now they're suffering from the variants that are making them way more sick.

essential workers... of course! Those that just want to party hearty... uhhh...

just look at Ontario and Ford's latest bullshyte moves - where 'other regions' received the same half-azzed "lockdown" measures that aren't working in Toronto/Peel. Given variants versus vaccine procurement and those unwilling to follow any kind of restrictions, vaccines will never be the sole answer.

c'mon waldo, the go-to line from politicians unwilling to do what is actually required, is to now say, "the people are so tired of this"! And if it was done properly from the onset (say like South Korea, like New Zealand)... but provincial Conservative premiers can only do so much, you know!
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« Reply #3034 on: April 05, 2021, 11:58:27 am »
essential workers... of course! Those that just want to party hearty... uhhh...

just look at Ontario and Ford's latest bullshyte moves - where 'other regions' received the same half-azzed "lockdown" measures that aren't working in Toronto/Peel. Given variants versus vaccine procurement and those unwilling to follow any kind of restrictions, vaccines will never be the sole answer.

c'mon waldo, the go-to line from politicians unwilling to do what is actually required, is to now say, "the people are so tired of this"! And if it was done properly from the onset (say like South Korea, like New Zealand)... but provincial Conservative premiers can only do so much, you know!

So you're blaming it solely on social gatherings?

There is 6-weeks of data that show that surrounding region didn't see a drastic spike in cases once restrictions were eased. Going back to full Shutdown will only prove to enrage more people.

Are you denying that essential workplaces aren't an issue in the current spread. \

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-woman-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-from-husband-who-got-infected-at-work-doctor-says-1.5374029

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TORONTO -- An Ontario woman in her 40s is dead after she contracted COVID-19 from her husband, who got sick after being told to go to work despite there being a known COVID-19 outbreak at the factory where he was employed, her doctor says.

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« Reply #3035 on: April 05, 2021, 01:14:52 pm »
Most of the over 70's have had one shot and I'm starting to wonder whether changing direction to younger front line and production workers isn't a better idea. I was just looking at the BC Covid dashboard and only 25% of total infections are boomer age (56) and older and 40% are between 20 and 40. It may be the only way to get a handle on these variants.

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“Fatigue, dehydration, the symptoms are intense,” one agent of a Canucks player told ESPN. “It’s knocked a lot of guys out. Some can’t even get out of bed.”

These are some of the fittest people in society, most in their 20's.
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« Reply #3036 on: April 05, 2021, 01:48:22 pm »
c'mon waldo, the go-to line from politicians unwilling to do what is actually required, is to now say, "the people are so tired of this"! And if it was done properly from the onset (say like South Korea, like New Zealand)... but provincial Conservative premiers can only do so much, you know!
OTOH there's a certain Liberal politician, the son of a man who famously said "just watch me", who should do the right thing and invoke the War Measures Act.  Of course the go-to-line now is that "lockdowns are a provincial responsibility".

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« Reply #3037 on: April 05, 2021, 01:49:53 pm »
Going back to full Shutdown will only prove to enrage more people.
**** those people.
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« Reply #3038 on: April 05, 2021, 02:06:02 pm »
**** those people.

Guess that went over my head.

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« Reply #3039 on: April 05, 2021, 02:27:56 pm »
OTOH there's a certain Liberal politician, the son of a man who famously said "just watch me", who should do the right thing and invoke the War Measures Act.  Of course the go-to-line now is that "lockdowns are a provincial responsibility".

National Martial Law? That's terrifying.

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« Reply #3040 on: April 05, 2021, 02:47:53 pm »
Most of the over 70's have had one shot and I'm starting to wonder whether changing direction to younger front line and production workers isn't a better idea. I was just looking at the BC Covid dashboard and only 25% of total infections are boomer age (56) and older and 40% are between 20 and 40. It may be the only way to get a handle on these variants.

These are some of the fittest people in society, most in their 20's.
Well, its not the only way to get a handle on things but apparently printing more money is out of the question. I certainly won't be surprised if this direction results in me being deemed to old to spend vaccine on and I get bumped off the list I'm on to accommodate more economically valuable people.

Interestingly enough back when I became aware of resentment building amongst front line workers against people who were paid to stay home during the first wave lockdowns I suggested greater economic incentives for them and was even willing to put in a few shifts at our co-op for example to take a little share of the strain.  No matter which economic ideology one subscribes to if people are expected to view themselves as being part of some economic team it better not feel like they're being forced over the wire to take one for it.  Personally I'd prefer to take my chances with a survival of the fittest approach.

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« Reply #3041 on: April 05, 2021, 02:53:08 pm »
Well, its not the only way to get a handle on things but apparently printing more money is out of the question. I certainly won't be surprised if this direction results in me being deemed to old to spend vaccine on and I get bumped off the list I'm on to accommodate more economically valuable people.

I don't know how old you are. In Ontario, as of last week, Anyone over 55 could get a vaccine if they wanted to book an appointment.

So I'm not sure if this Darwinian fear is a reality.

What we need to focus on is people that stand a greater chance of being infected. People who live in areas where spread is the greatest need to be the focus of vaccination efforts.

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« Reply #3042 on: April 05, 2021, 03:00:18 pm »
National Martial Law? That's terrifying.
Well, maybe the 16% of Canadians threatening to come unglued and enraged at the thought of more lockdowns should get a grip instead of terrifying provincial politicians into inaction and mismanagement.

I recall those old campaign ads... Soldiers. In our streets. Lol!
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« Reply #3043 on: April 05, 2021, 03:07:18 pm »
Well, maybe the 16% of Canadians threatening to come unglued and enraged at the thought of more lockdowns should get a grip instead of terrifying provincial politicians into inaction and mismanagement.

I recall those old campaign ads... Soldiers. In our streets. Lol!

The thought of more lockdowns? We've been in "lockdowns".

What they've done in Ontario is spread the lockdown province wide because they can't control the spread in communities that have effectively been in Lockdown since November.

Lockdowns aren't working. Too many people go to work and do Essential services to ensure all people stay at home.

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« Reply #3044 on: April 05, 2021, 03:51:26 pm »
The thought of more lockdowns? We've been in "lockdowns".
And Trump banned flights. ::)