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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #210 on: June 07, 2019, 03:02:11 pm »
Israel said set to seek $250b compensation for Jews forced out of Arab countries


Israel is preparing to demand compensation totaling a reported $250 billion from seven Arab countries and Iran for property and assets left behind by Jews who were forced to flee those countries following the establishment of the State of Israel.

“The time has come to correct the historic injustice of the pogroms (against Jews) in seven Arab countries and Iran, and to restore, to hundreds of thousands of Jews who lost their property, what is rightfully theirs,” Israel’s Minister for Social Equality, Gila Gamliel, who is coordinating the Israeli government’s handling of the issue, said Saturday.

According to figures cited Saturday night by Israel’s Hadashot TV news, compensation demands are now being finalized with regards to the first two of the eight countries involved, with Israel set to seek $35 billion dollars in compensation for lost Jewish assets from Tunisia, and $15 billion dollars from Libya.

In total, the TV report said Israel will seek over $250 billion from those two countries plus Morocco, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Yemen and Iran.

Justice for Jews from Arab Countries (JJAC), an international umbrella group of Jewish community organizations, has estimated that some 856,000 Jews from 10 Arab countries — the other two were Algeria and Lebanon — fled or were expelled in 1948 and after, while violent Arab riots left many Jews dead or injured.

For the past 18 months, utilizing the services of an international accountancy firm, the Israeli government has quietly been researching the value of property and assets that these Jews were forced to leave behind, the TV report said.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-set-to-seek-250b-compensation-for-jews-forced-out-of-arab-countries/

It's time the Arabs paid up for the ethnic cleansing committed against Jews in Arab countries.

Indeed.

Has Israel yet paid compensation for the Palestinians run out of Israel & West Bank?


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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #211 on: June 07, 2019, 03:05:47 pm »
Indeed.

Has Israel yet paid compensation for the Palestinians run out of Israel & West Bank?

More Jews were displaced from Arab lands than Arabs that were displaced by Israeli occupation.  Nice to see anti-Semites cannot counter history but choose to ignore, dismiss or reflect it.
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« Reply #212 on: June 07, 2019, 03:30:17 pm »
More Jews were displaced from Arab lands than Arabs that were displaced by Israeli occupation.

They don't cancel each other out.
Both are viable considerations, I would think.

 
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Nice to see anti-Semites cannot counter history but choose to ignore, dismiss or reflect it.
Accusations of anti-Semitism due to criticism of Netanyahu's policies for Israel are the tactic of people with no valid arguments.



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« Reply #213 on: June 07, 2019, 03:31:26 pm »

 Accusations of anti-Semitism due to criticism of Netanyahu's policies for Israel are the tactic of people with no valid arguments.

You should learn the English language since nobody supports Netanyahu.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #214 on: June 07, 2019, 03:45:01 pm »
You should learn the English language since nobody supports Netanyahu.

I can't make any sense of that at all.
Try again.


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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #215 on: June 08, 2019, 07:51:15 am »
Note: I post such links for information, alternative Jewish and Palestinian views that I support in their attempts to work together toward peaceful solutions.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #216 on: June 09, 2019, 11:32:45 am »
Germany has outlawed BDS as "anti-Semitism"
It is not.
In support of the call by 240 Jewish and Israeli scholars to the German government: Do not equate ‘BDS’ with anti-Semitism
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc1W_JE2ioVSbW1XhT_WdpzFT4NY3trBWP39-Alb6ge7HpKpg/viewform

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« Reply #217 on: June 12, 2019, 08:30:46 am »
Germany has outlawed BDS as "anti-Semitism" 

Why might it be though ?

Maybe because it singles out Israel over much worse actors that we trade with quite freely ? 

Maybe another framework than boycott could bring a conversation over human rights to a more productive place ?

I don't have a hard opinion on this one, just asking.

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« Reply #218 on: June 12, 2019, 03:41:22 pm »
Why might it be though ?
Maybe because it singles out Israel over much worse actors that we trade with quite freely ? 

I can't speak for all BDS supporters, but my initial introduction to the idea was at the time of Israel's bombing of Gaza in 2009, among Canadian labour and social justice activists, some of whom were Palestinian and some Jewish. The pain and desperation of Palestinian members was obvious, and eight well-known Jewish-Canadian women were occupying the Israeli Consulate in Toronto at the time.
It wasn't about anti-Semitism but about injustices and Israel's disproportionate response:
13 Israelis killed (3 civilians, 4 friendly fire)
1400+ Palestinians killed (926 civilians)

Israel stopped due to international outcry.

Speaking out is important.

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Maybe another framework than boycott could bring a conversation over human rights to a more productive place ?

I don't have a hard opinion on this one, just asking.

Anybody is free to start whatever initiative they wish.

BDS is non-violent and educates people about Israel-Palestine issues. It is succeeding in that.

And I am appalled, on principle, that Parliament "condemns" Canadians who participate in BDS. <rolleyes>
It's a matter of freedom of expression, and REALLY not their business.
If some Canadians boycotted Saudi Arabia, would we be "condemned" for that too ... because of trade relations?

It's a very slippery slope when our governments start trying to tell us who we can and cannot protest.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #221 on: June 13, 2019, 02:58:35 am »
Yes thanks Rue.
One needs to be aware of the propaganda files.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #222 on: June 13, 2019, 11:28:58 pm »
Independent Jewish Voices Canada says:

Go Raptors!

...but not to Israel.


Toronto Raptors Jewish co-owner says team will visit Israel if it wins NBA championship

https://www.jta.org/quick-reads



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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #224 on: June 16, 2019, 02:48:50 am »
 
Israel surveils and blackmails gay Palestinians to make them informants
https://mondoweiss.net/2014/09/blackmails-palestinian-informants/?fbclid=IwAR0wPp1HBnQ9xeqtnkZbhWPqxaHJhVc8sc23tnKll_4m7U_qwaqEovIpGx8‬
Haaretz has a story up on 43 reservists in Israeli intelligence who are refusing to serve because of the “political persecution” of Palestinians. The reservists write that while surveillance of Israeli citizens is strictly limited, “the Palestinians are not afforded this protection.” They declare in a letter to the Israeli P.M.: “we refuse to take part in actions against Palestinians and refuse to continue serving as tools in deepening the military control over the Occupied Territories.”