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« Reply #180 on: May 31, 2019, 08:37:16 pm »
I tried my best to respond directly to your points. This wasn't abut the length of my response

no - you purposely dropped another 2500+ word-bomb - purposely! Are you incapable of responding without posting the too long posts you yourself acknowledge... that you yourself apologized for doing? Are you?

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« Reply #181 on: May 31, 2019, 08:41:00 pm »
I've already talked to everyone about the world counter - just don't.

or what? As I said, feel free to ban me... so long as the azzhole continues his purposeful posting of too long posts I will most certainly continue to point out their length.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #182 on: May 31, 2019, 08:49:02 pm »
You both need to calm down - it's just the internet.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #183 on: May 31, 2019, 11:28:32 pm »
As you can see Granny Waldo and Omni show you the same contempt they do anyone else on this forum. They ignore you and  hijack your thread because they feel it more important to try bait me.  I tried my best to respond directly to your points. This wasn't abut the length of my response, its about two posters who don't want me to respond to you. Its never been about the length its been about trying to control people they don't agree with. I have sent the moderator notification of their trolling and I am sorry it happened but might I suggest you ignore them as they did you.

Please feel free to not respond to any of my points if you do not want to. I only responded out of respect to you. Please however don't let them ignore your right to debate with me. If you want I will be pleased to respond further. If you don't I won't. Eventually their trolling will be dealt with if not by the moderator by everyone ignoring them.
I quite like omni and waldo's contributions.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #184 on: June 01, 2019, 01:00:57 am »
or what? As I said, feel free to ban me... so long as the azzhole continues his purposeful posting of too long posts I will most certainly continue to point out their length.
Thanks for the stuff you posted, waldo. Good info.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #185 on: June 01, 2019, 06:24:11 am »
it's just the internet

it's just a word-counter

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #186 on: June 01, 2019, 08:47:18 am »
I quite like omni and waldo's contributions.

With due respect Granny of course you do but that is not the issue.


You don't have to agree with what I say. That's fine. I responded to your 10 points respectfully.

For Waldo to come on this or any thread to tell me how my responses to your points should be and suggest the length of my responses are a deliberate conspiracy to shut you up is past absurd. Y

None of my responses shut down what you said or insulted you and are trying to discuss a complex conflict with you.

I only came here to discuss the points you have raised and debate them respectfully. No more, no less. It is now up to Waldo, you and me to set the right standard to respect different opinions. All I am trying to do is debate the issues of a conflict that define it in a way other than one side is bad and the other good.

If you really are not interested in what I have to say and simply want people on this thread to agree with your perspective then say so and I won't respond further to you on this thread. Thanks.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #187 on: June 01, 2019, 08:59:33 am »
it's just a word-counter

I know, and to be honest, I couldn't care less, but more than one person has reported it.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #188 on: June 01, 2019, 09:00:00 am »
With due respect Granny of course you do. If you want to come on a debate forum and only have people who agree with you respond to you that is unfortunate.

Discussion forums are supposed to allow two way debate.

You don't have to agree with what I say. That's fine. I responded to your points respectfully. Please note I only did that. For Waldo to come on this or any thread self appointed to tell me or anyone how long our responses to your points should be is inappropriate. You can ignore me or read my responses. None of my responses shut down what you said or insulted you.

If you think you need Omni and Waldo to hijack your thread to try censor me, so be it. As a general rule when someone provides a third party source they try make an attempt to show how it applies to the thread and points they are making. Waldo has not done that and has admitted that he has done what he has done to engage in an on-going attack on me. At this point its not about length Granny, its about content.

When Waldo responds or reads things he has agreed with that are long he's never had a concern. It only arose when I matched him response by response in another thread and he took it personally.

It is unfortunate he has brought that onto this thread.

I only came here to discuss the points you have raised and debate them. No more, no less and I have done so with respect.

It is now up to Waldo, you and me so set the right standard to respect different opinions. Clearly you have at times with me and I have tried constantly with you.

All I am trying to do is debate an approach to a conflict that defines it as good versus evil and one side being evil and the other good.

If you really are not interested in any views but those you agree with simply say so and I won't respond further to you on this thread. Thanks.
I've never been much interested in 'debate', but in information and discussion - ie, education.

I'm not at all interested in your opinions about other posters.
You can ignore them, or go complain to JMT, but it does not belong in an adult discussion thread.

I will get to responding to your long post when I get to it.
I'm busy.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #189 on: June 01, 2019, 10:28:18 am »
I know, and to be honest, I couldn't care less, but more than one person has reported it.

You said you  could care less - that speaks loudly as to your actual opinion about trolling.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #190 on: June 01, 2019, 10:35:07 am »


I'm not at all interested in your opinions about other posters.
You can ignore them, or go complain to JMT, but it does not belong in an adult discussion thread.


Again Granny you say one thing and do another. On the one hand you are not interested in my opinions about other posters but you expect posters to be interested in your opinions of other posters. You continue to remain inconsistent and refuse to practice what you preach.

What I stated most certainly belonged in this thread as it was raised in this thread.

Please don't adapt a patronizing tone with me and  select out  and lecture me for behavior I did not initiate, engage in or condone. Its clear you are not interested in my opinions on this thread, so I will not respond further.


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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #191 on: June 01, 2019, 03:17:50 pm »
Take it to the Rules thread.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #192 on: June 01, 2019, 03:39:16 pm »
Omni, waldo, JMT: pls stop responding to Rue here. (Just a request. Do what you think is best.)

I will persist in having this information and discussion thread, around his posts if necessary. 

Every thread about Israel-Palestine, on every board, is attacked and destroyed. That is not an accident, not just an irritant. The same forces have Parliament attempting to limit Canadians' freedom of expression in criticizing the current extremist right-wing Israeli regime.

This thread is going to continue.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #193 on: June 02, 2019, 02:39:14 pm »
I have decided not to respond to Rue's long response to my fairly long post. His response is here

https://canadianpoliticalevents.createaforum.com/the-world/international-jewish-voices/?message=48175

and includes much or all of my post. Read it at your leisure.

Our different opinions are clear,  and will remain as such.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #194 on: June 03, 2019, 08:23:32 am »
Some anti-Trump reaction perhaps, also differences between younger-older people, and no doubt concerns about synagogue attacks, and perhaps Netanyahu's policies. But still, overall, fairly high support for Israel.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-growing-number-of-u-s-jews-support-evacuation-of-west-bank-settlements-study-finds-1.7314699

This trend of disengagement from Israel was most pronounced among younger and secular American Jews. Only 44 percent of people between the age of 18 and 29 and 42 percent of the secular respondents said that Israel played a significant role in their Jewish identity.
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The share of American Jews who believe Israel “should be willing to dismantle all the settlements” as part of a peace agreement with the Palestinians rose from 15 percent in 2018 to 25 percent in 2019. By contrast, only 6 percent of Israeli Jews were in favor of such a move. Nearly two-thirds of American Jews said they supported a two-state solution that included that establishment of a demilitarized Palestinians state in the West Bank while only 39 percent of Israeli Jews did.
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The survey further revealed glaring differences in how American and Israeli Jews perceive the policies of U.S. President Donald Trump. Nearly 80 percent of Israeli Jews said they approved of his handling of U.S.-Israel relations, as compared to only 37 percent of American Jews. A much larger share of Israelis Jews favored the American president’s decision to recognize Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights than did American Jews.
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