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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2019, 11:35:06 am »
I openly apologize to the forum for the length of some of my posts. I am the first to admit they are too long. I am not sure sometimes how to explain certain legal concepts raised without specific reference which gets lengthy.

meaningless! Claiming your extreme verbosity reflects upon your uncertainty in, "how to explain certain legal concepts"... is pure bullshyte! You were exposed as a fake lawyer when you failed to actually understand/speak to a profiled immigration themed discussion - that was you right - claiming to be an "immigration lawyer"?  ;D

like I said, you hide behind/within your verbosity. When I've taken the time to dissect your voluminous screeds into workable piecemeal points for targeted discussion/argument, you ignore those - you run away from them because you can't hide from them.

the only way your apology means anything is if you stop your purposeful extreme verbosity... stop your voluminous screeds... stop your Gish Gallop routine... start to write precisely and concisely and discuss/argue accordingly.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2019, 05:24:54 pm »
The JNF is attacked by trendy left wingers as it is seen as a tool to colonize the West Bank by Israel.

Rue,

There is no reason why Israel is exempt from Canadian or International law.

There is every reason why Palestinians are equally deserving of the protection of law.

PETITION TO CANADIAN SENATE:
Don't trade away Palestinian rights
https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-senators-dont-trade-away-palestinian-human-rights?clear_id=true&source=email-cifta-may-have-passed-but-the-struggle-for-palestinian-human-rights-continues-2

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2019, 11:51:24 am »
IJV plans to peacefully protest the annual Walk with Israel, Toronto.
Pro-Israel supporters claim 'anti-Semitism'.

This headline is biased and inflammatory: Nobody has claimed any intention to "disrupt" anything. Quite the opposite.
https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/protesters-plan-to-disrupt-the-annual-walk-with-israel-in-toronto
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2019, 02:16:55 pm »
IJV plans to peacefully protest the annual Walk with Israel, Toronto.
Pro-Israel supporters claim 'anti-Semitism'.

This headline is biased and inflammatory: Nobody has claimed any intention to "disrupt" anything. Quite the opposite.
https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/protesters-plan-to-disrupt-the-annual-walk-with-israel-in-toronto

As if the Arabs are any  better....

Google "Shafiq Ades."

After 1947, over a million Jews were forced to flee Arab countries due to most Arab states implementing Nuremberg-type laws. Thousands of Jews were killed for being Jews. Eventually life became so intolerable for them that they had no choice but to immigrate to Israel or North America.

I've always found it funny how all these Israeli apartheid activists ignore this part of history. There is an irony in accusing Israel of "ethnic cleansing," when every single Arab state that had a significant Jewish population in 1947 legitimately committed ethnic cleansing. However, only Israel receives Worldwide condemnation. Because they are Jews and "should have perished in the Holocaust."
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2019, 02:55:46 pm »
As if the Arabs are any  better....

Google "Shafiq Ades."

After 1947, over a million Jews were forced to flee Arab countries due to most Arab states implementing Nuremberg-type laws. Thousands of Jews were killed for being Jews. Eventually life became so intolerable for them that they had no choice but to immigrate to Israel or North America.

I've always found it funny how all these Israeli apartheid activists ignore this part of history. There is an irony in accusing Israel of "ethnic cleansing," when every single Arab state that had a significant Jewish population in 1947 legitimately committed ethnic cleansing. However, only Israel receives Worldwide condemnation. Because they are Jews and "should have perished in the Holocaust."

So like Rue, your answer is ...
'Somebody committed genocide against Jews so Israel can commit genocide against Palestinians.'

It doesn't say that in the Convention on Genocide. All perpetrators are accountable for their actions.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/crimeofgenocide.aspx
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« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2019, 02:56:58 pm »
When did I say anything about Genocide? If you think Israel is guilty of "genocide" towards the Palestinians, then I suggest you talk with a member of a community who was a legitimate victim of genocide, not an imaginary Genocide.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2019, 07:57:55 pm »
An open letter to the Toronto Jewish Community regarding the UJA Walk with Israel
https://ijvcanada.org/2019/unconditional-support-for-israel-is-unconditional-support-for-injustice/


On Monday, May 20, members of the Toronto Jewish community will participate in the annual Walk with Israel, which is taking place in the Bathurst and Wilson area. Independent Jewish Voices, a national organization which advocates for human rights and peace with justice in Israel-Palestine, will once again be present with allies from other groups to demonstrate that the Jewish community in Canada is not unified in its attitudes towards the state of Israel.

Indeed, like tens of thousands of Jews worldwide, we oppose Israelís ongoing illegal occupation of Palestinian lands and its regime of violence, intimidation and incarceration aimed at the Palestinian population of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza. We challenge those who offer unconditional support for Israel to ask themselves if they would support the same violations of human rights and international law anywhere else in the world. We affirm that our criticism of Israel comes from an embrace of both Jewish and universal humanitarian values and has no relation whatsoever to antisemitism.


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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2019, 10:33:04 pm »
IJV plans to peacefully protest the annual Walk with Israel, Toronto.
Pro-Israel supporters claim 'anti-Semitism'.

The walk for Israel doesn't mean unconditional support for Israel, it means support for Israel.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2019, 05:33:59 pm »


Please discuss the thread issue and not me.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2019, 07:46:07 pm »
Rue,

There is no reason why Israel is exempt from Canadian or International law.

There is every reason why Palestinians are equally deserving of the protection of law.

PETITION TO CANADIAN SENATE:
Don't trade away Palestinian rights
https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-senators-dont-trade-away-palestinian-human-rights?clear_id=true&source=email-cifta-may-have-passed-but-the-struggle-for-palestinian-human-rights-continues-2

Your response does not  deal with position I stated on this forum to you nor with the issue of the thread.
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2019, 08:01:23 pm »
Your response does not issue any comment or position I stated on this forum to you.
Your excuses do not exempt Israel from law.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2019, 08:11:28 pm »
So like Rue, your answer is ...
'Somebody committed genocide against Jews so Israel can commit genocide against Palestinians.'

It doesn't say that in the Convention on Genocide. All perpetrators are accountable for their actions.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/crimeofgenocide.aspx


Nowhere in this or any thread have I stated the above Granny. People can read my comments in 22 and 29.
I was addressing your double standard when analysing Israeli and Palestinian rights.

Granny I think your references to the activists being Jews is immaterial to the thread.


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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2019, 08:18:08 pm »
Your excuses do not exempt Israel from law.

I have made no excuses for anything Granny. My comment was in direct response to the double standard you use when referencing Israeli and Palestinian rights. Stop misrepresenting what I stated. If you do not understand it ask. I said and say again before you criticize the JNF at least find out what it does.

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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2019, 08:19:51 pm »
IJV plans to peacefully protest the annual Walk with Israel, Toronto.
Pro-Israel supporters claim 'anti-Semitism'.

This headline is biased and inflammatory: Nobody has claimed any intention to "disrupt" anything. Quite the opposite.
https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/protesters-plan-to-disrupt-the-annual-walk-with-israel-in-toronto

All your posts on this thread could becsaid to engage biased inflammatory headlines as well as references. Your point?
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Re: International Jewish Voices
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2019, 08:21:37 pm »
I have made no excuses for anything Granny. My comment was in direct response to the double standard you use when referencing Israeli and Palestinian rights. Stop misrepresenting what I stated. If you do not understand it ask. I said and say again before you criticize the JNF at least find out what it does. With due respect you are simply parroting scripts. Further do not usecme or any Jew or Israeli to excuse your comments by suggesting we engage in a holocaust double standard, are engaged in genocide of anyone or think about Palestinian rights as you attempt to portray us if we don't agree with you. Your assumptions are false and bigoted.
I reply to you only to repeat:
Israel is not exempt from the law, nor exempt from protest.
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