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Offline wilber

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Quite true, facts that the naysayers (such as shady) seem to not understand, or choose to ignore. My fear is that such attitude will help create the second wave as things open up before the testing is adequate.

What puzzles me is they seem to think it wouldn't have been any worse if we had done nothing.
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Ah, no. The two month death rate for Covid has been right up there with the worst influenza years this century and that was with most of the country locked down.
I was referring to SARS, Ebola, etc.  Not covid.

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What puzzles me is they seem to think it wouldn't have been any worse if we had done nothing.

We're lucky here in BC that we have Dr. Bonnie Henry as provincial health officer who knew better and took the bull by the horns early. The infection rate here is the proof in the pudding.

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What puzzles me is they seem to think it wouldn't have been any worse if we had done nothing.
I’ve never said do nothing.  That’s an ongoing fallacy that never dies for some reason.  It’s a false choice as well.

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We're lucky here in BC that we have Dr. Bonnie Henry as provincial health officer who knew better and took the bull by the horns early. The infection rate here is the proof in the pudding.
BC didn’t act any sooner than the rest of Canada.  Nice revisionist history.

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I’ve never said do nothing.  That’s an ongoing fallacy that never dies for some reason.  It’s a false choice as well.

Well what is the choice then? Mr Expert.
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BC didn’t act any sooner than the rest of Canada.  Nice revisionist history.

Ya, actually it did In late March BC was testing at triple the rate per capita than any jurisdiction in Canada. 75% more than South Korea.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3077016/coronavirus-british-columbia-testing-covid-19

It also sent provincial officials to airports and border crossings to tell people to self isolate because it wasn't happy with the slow response from the federal government.

I think this statement at the time by Dr Henry is at the core of BC"s strategy and success.

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“To be clear: we are absolutely testing and contact tracing anybody for whom we don’t know the source of their infection,” she said. “We know the source of infection for people who are coming in from outside Canada.”
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Offline Omni

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BC didn’t act any sooner than the rest of Canada.  Nice revisionist history.

The reality of the infection rates in BC is not "revisionist history" shady. It's actual facts. Luckily for us Dr. Henry didn't look at his as 'oh just another flu", or heaven forbid "a hoax" (heard of that one have ya?" or we'd be dying like they are in the states.

Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Snacks don't care about your feelings.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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I keep hearing about new cases, but looking at the graphs it seems like Canada will be down to negligible cases by end of June.  The US is also declining, though at a slower rate. 

And I don't see how a 2nd wave could happen in the atmosphere of continued warnings and official safety restrictions.


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I keep hearing about new cases, but looking at the graphs it seems like Canada will be down to negligible cases by end of June.  The US is also declining, though at a slower rate. 
Georgia, Florida. Texas, California...? Not so much.

Offline Michael Hardner

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Georgia, Florida. Texas, California...? Not so much.

Will the overall numbers go up ?  If not, will the local "blue" states find a way to care about this ?  Who will they blame though ?

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I think we're just going to have to be comfortable with some level of death associated with this disease.

Heck, there are many things where the death rate is just the price of living in society.

I don't think governments can hit reverse on these figures. Especially if hospitals remain under capacity.

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New Zealand announces economy going back to normal  after no new cases for 17 days. People entering the country will still have to quarantine.
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Yikes!

Coronavirus pandemic may lead to 75,000 "deaths of despair" from suicide, drug and alcohol abuse, study says
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-deaths-suicides-drugs-alcohol-pandemic-75000/
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