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Offline Spike The Hike Shady

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« Reply #1260 on: August 30, 2022, 12:47:58 pm »
Under waldo’s policy, the country in purple gets 8 more years, at least, before reducing emissions.  And that’s voluntary, they could always choose to tell the world to pound sand.

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Offline Spike The Hike Shady

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« Reply #1261 on: August 30, 2022, 12:49:03 pm »
More from waldo’s favourite environmentally friendly country.

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« Reply #1262 on: August 30, 2022, 01:26:45 pm »
Lol, I love how you need to go back to 1850! 😂 When China wasn’t even industrialized.  Btw, how do volcanic eruptions stack up to the chart you posted?  Any idea?
Regardless, what’s your position going to be when China over takes them?  Why are you ok with China deferring reductions for another 8 years?  Isn’t climate change an urgent issue?

The idea that the largest per capita emitters should just do nothing because these other countries are increasing their total emissions is, in a word, retarded.

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« Reply #1263 on: August 30, 2022, 02:02:02 pm »
Lol, I love how you need to go back to 1850! 😂 When China wasn’t even industrialized.

quit being the fool, hey! At what point would you like a historical accounting to begin? But hey now, nice Shady own-goal... as you scurry about trying to give the U.S. cover for it's principal historical emission contributions, as you repeatedly target China's current emissions, you clearly prefer... expect... a China that stays undeveloped and one that reverts to a backward agrarian society rather than that of an industrial powerhouse!

Btw, how do volcanic eruptions stack up to the chart you posted?  Any idea?

the waldo is shocked you're dropping a tried&true denier deflection! Here let the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) punt your implication: "the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually, while our automotive and industrial activities currently cause some 35+ billion tons of CO2 emissions yearly worldwide."

Regardless, what’s your position going to be when China over takes them?  Why are you ok with China deferring reductions for another 8 years?  Isn’t climate change an urgent issue?

quit trolling - you've repeatedly been schooled on what a peak emissions target actually means in terms of the required start of mitigating reduction actions and the supporting policies that drive those actions; again:


You gonna tell China and India about this, so that maybe they’ll act sooner than possibly 2030?

oh how you struggle with the concept of peak emissions and targeting it... a moron is Shady. Don't be Shady!

notwithstanding the fact China has actually provided a NDC emissions improvement target update to its 2015 Paris Agreement NDC commitment, riddle me this Shady:
=>if a country... any country... pledged to reach peak emissions by 2030, how would that country reach that peak target without beginning mitigating reductions in 2015 on-through-to today and on-through-to 2030?
clearly you can't grasp the concept of policies driving mitigating emission reduction actions working towards a peak target... your "waiting to peak" comment showcases your ignorance! Your 2030/8 years reference reinforces you haven't a clue as to what the updated China NDC commitment actually is!

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« Reply #1264 on: August 30, 2022, 02:04:55 pm »
Under waldo’s policy, the country in purple gets 8 more years, at least, before reducing emissions.  And that’s voluntary, they could always choose to tell the world to pound sand.
More from waldo’s favourite environmentally friendly country.

trolling is Shady - Don't be Shady!

Offline Spike The Hike Shady

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« Reply #1265 on: August 30, 2022, 02:06:25 pm »
The idea that the largest per capita emitters should just do nothing because these other countries are increasing their total emissions is, in a word, retarded.
Who said do nothing?  I certainly didn’t.  But carry on with your straw man.
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« Reply #1266 on: August 30, 2022, 02:31:54 pm »
Who said do nothing?  I certainly didn’t.  But carry on with your straw man.

It's pretty easy to piece that together when you oppose environmental regulation of virtually any sort, want to increase fossil fuel production, oppose domestic carbon reduction etc etc.


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« Reply #1267 on: September 07, 2022, 05:21:21 pm »
It's pretty easy to piece that together when you oppose environmental regulation of virtually any sort, want to increase fossil fuel production, oppose domestic carbon reduction etc etc.
But not all fossil fuels are equal.  Natural gas for instance is MUCH cleaner than oil.  Also, carbon capture technology.  Using solar when applicable, and build new nuclear power plants.  Raising taxes and banning fuels don’t do anything other than crush your economy and push jobs overseas to countries without such repressive restrictions.  Your policies do nothing but cede power to counties like Russia, see Europe currently, and ship jobs to China, India etc.
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« Reply #1268 on: September 07, 2022, 05:21:48 pm »
Reality check.

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« Reply #1269 on: September 07, 2022, 05:31:28 pm »
Reality check.

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That's also LA.  A lot more sun to power solar panels in California than any part of Canada.

We need nuclear or we're screwed.
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« Reply #1270 on: September 07, 2022, 05:43:55 pm »
That's also LA.  A lot more sun to power solar panels in California than any part of Canada.

We need nuclear or we're screwed.
Exactly.  I don’t take any climate alarmist seriously that’s not a proponent of nuclear power.  It’s literally the solution to the problem.

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« Reply #1271 on: December 30, 2022, 01:23:36 pm »
in recent weeks Poilievre and CPC minions (notably weakAndy Scheer; aka the mythical insurance broker), taking runs at the 'carbon tax price'... of course talking up the intent to triple it but never noting the 'by 2030' timing aspect, never mentioning rebates as applicable, never mentioning leading economists favour it, etc..

e.g., economists statement; as signatories includes 28 Nobel Laureate Economists, 4 Former Chairs of the Federal Reserve & 15 Former Chairs of the Council of Economic Advisers:


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« Reply #1272 on: December 30, 2022, 04:37:53 pm »
I would never vote for the Conservatives again.  The way the UCP have ruined the health care system, and the fact that they just elected a leader who was full-throttle QAnon, is all the more reason to hold my nose at the polls, and vote for the lesser of evils.
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« Reply #1273 on: May 24, 2023, 10:42:10 am »
oh Shady! Surprisingly you offer no details/context - go figure, hey! Of course this is a part of new fuel regulations that require producers to reduce the carbon content of their fuels... companies not meeting those new regulation requirements will be taxed accordingly. Your purposeful misinformation presumes that companies will not meet said regulations... and... if associated taxation results, those companies will pass the tax increase down to consumers.

Clean Fuel Regulations (Statutory Orders and Regulations (SOR)/2022-140):


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« Reply #1274 on: May 24, 2023, 10:52:58 am »
while Poilievre/CPC toadies rage about a claimed "2nd carbon tax" in regards new clean fuel regulations, a new study highlights their disdain for the 'polluter-pays-principle' amidst the current profiled focus on extreme wildfires:

Rise in extreme wildfires linked directly to emissions from oil companies in new study --- Researchers set out to clearly quantify connection between companies, emissions and climate events (Benjamin Shingler - CBC News - May 24)

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As fires blaze in Alberta, Saskatchewan and B.C., new research has drawn a direct and measurable link between carbon emissions traced back to the world's major fossil fuel producers and the increase in extreme wildfires across western Canada and the United States.

The peer-reviewed study, published last week in the journal Environmental Research Letters, found that 37 per cent of the total burned forest area in Western Canada and the United States between 1986-2021 can be traced back to 88 major fossil fuel producers and cement manufacturers.