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« Reply #675 on: May 25, 2019, 04:50:54 pm »
I would love to leave the oilfiled, and work in an occupation related to helping resolve climate change.

I will admit to having drawn quite a lot of paychecks from the oil industry and at the level I was emplyed I became well aware of how technically adept those around me were. I have often thought that capacity could be redirected toward renewables and the band could play on.

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« Reply #676 on: May 25, 2019, 04:55:36 pm »
I would love to leave the oilfiled, and work in an occupation related to helping resolve climate change.
You are working to deal with climate change by helping ensure our society has the economic resources needed to adapt.

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« Reply #677 on: May 25, 2019, 05:01:08 pm »
You are working to deal with climate change by helping ensure our society has the economic resources needed to adapt.

Or, in reality, working to accelerate climate change.
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« Reply #678 on: May 28, 2019, 02:11:18 pm »
500 tornadoes in 30 days in the US with more in the forecast. Nope, no global warming here.

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« Reply #679 on: May 28, 2019, 02:34:42 pm »
500 tornadoes in 30 days in the US with more in the forecast. Nope, no global warming here.
There is zero evidence that climate change has any effect on tornado formation. This is more of the "blame the sick cow on the old woman" nonsense that alarmists are so addicted to.
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« Reply #680 on: May 28, 2019, 06:27:38 pm »
There is zero evidence that climate change has any effect on tornado formation. This is more of the "blame the sick cow on the old woman" nonsense that alarmists are so addicted to.

The energy generating these storms is heat. That's why we see fewer tornados and hurricanes the farther we get from the equator.
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« Reply #681 on: May 28, 2019, 06:50:55 pm »
There is zero evidence that climate change has any effect on tornado formation. This is more of the "blame the sick cow on the old woman" nonsense that alarmists are so addicted to.

Increased heat equals increased evaporation equals increased storms. Maybe think about updating your home insurance.

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« Reply #682 on: May 28, 2019, 06:53:54 pm »
The energy generating these storms is heat. That's why we see fewer tornados and hurricanes the farther we get from the equator.
According to theory warming reduces the differential between the poles and tropics which should reduce the the number of storm events. The increase heat may increase the intensity of the storms that do form but there should be fewer of them. More importantly, the actual data supports the theory since the number of storms has been decreasing across the globe, unfortunately, in any given year there will be higher than normal activity in some part of the globe which the media and alarmists hype because they have witches to burn but that does mean there is an actual increase in the average.


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« Reply #683 on: May 28, 2019, 07:06:14 pm »
According to theory warming reduces the differential between the poles and tropics which should reduce the the number of storm events. The increase heat may increase the intensity of the storms that do form but there should be fewer of them. More importantly, the actual data supports the theory since the number of storms has been decreasing across the globe, unfortunately, in any given year there will be higher than normal activity in some part of the globe which the media and alarmists hype because they have witches to burn but that does mean there is an actual increase in the average.



Yep over 500 tornadoes in 30 days and that type of increase has been accelerating over the last 8 years more than ever since records have been kept. Must be just a "blip" eh?

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« Reply #684 on: May 28, 2019, 07:40:45 pm »


The United States is experiencing the most active prolonged period of tornadoes since the April 2011 Super Outbreak.

More than 500 reports of tornadoes have been received by the National Weather Service in the past 30 days, notes Sam Lillo, a doctoral candidate at the University of Oklahoma. The actual number of tornadoes has yet to be confirmed, pending NWS damage surveys from recent activity.

https://weather.com/storms/severe/news/2019-05-28-severe-weather-tornado-streak-may-2019

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« Reply #685 on: May 28, 2019, 07:52:47 pm »
Yep over 500 tornadoes in 30 days and that type of increase has been accelerating over the last 8 years more than ever since records have been kept. Must be just a "blip" eh?
Its called weather. There is 100% chance of unusual weather somewhere in the world each year because that is what weather is. In any case, there is decrease the number of strong tornados in the US over the last 50 years. The increase in weak tornados is entirely due to more diligent reporting of small events over the last 30.



The same data is true for the alleged increase in droughts (i.e. there has not been any when you look at global data).

The only extreme that has shown a measurable increase are heat waves but that is matched but an equally significant decrease in cold waves which are generally more deadly to humans than heat waves.
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« Reply #686 on: May 28, 2019, 08:03:17 pm »
Its called weather. There is 100% chance of unusual weather somewhere in the world each year because that is what weather is. In any case, there is decrease the number of strong tornados in the US over the last 50 years. The increase in weak tornados is entirely due to more diligent reporting of small events over the last 30.



The same data is true for the alleged increase in droughts (i.e. there has not been any when you look at global data).

The only extreme that has shown a measurable increase are heat waves but that is matched but an equally significant decrease in cold waves which are generally more deadly to humans than heat waves.

The awareness as to the increase in significant storms is due simply to "reporting"? That's rich even from you.

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« Reply #687 on: May 28, 2019, 08:09:32 pm »
The awareness as to the increase in significant storms is due simply to "reporting"? That's rich even from you.
Not me. The NOAA:
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With increased National Doppler radar coverage, increasing population, and greater attention to tornado reporting, there has been an increase in the number of tornado reports over the past several decades. This can create a misleading appearance of an increasing trend in tornado frequency. To better understand the variability and trend in tornado frequency in the United States, the total number of EF-1 and stronger, as well as strong to violent tornadoes (EF-3 to EF-5 category on the Enhanced Fujita scale) can be analyzed. These tornadoes would have likely been reported even during the decades before Doppler radar use became widespread and practices resulted in increasing tornado reports. The bar charts below indicate there has been little trend in the frequency of the stronger tornadoes over the past 55 years.
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology/trends

But we all know you have  witches to burn and data and facts do not matter to you.

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« Reply #688 on: May 28, 2019, 08:17:38 pm »
Not me. The NOAA:https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology/trends

But we all know you have  witches to burn and data and facts do not matter to you.

I suggest you read the opening paragraph of your post. The current deluge of tornadoes were observed and who knows, maybe there were others that were not. 500+ in 30 days? That data matters to me.

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« Reply #689 on: May 28, 2019, 08:24:20 pm »
I suggest you read the opening paragraph of your post. The current deluge of tornadoes were observed and who knows, maybe there were others that were not. 500+ in 30 days? That data matters to me.
You need to learn to read. There is no trend in strong tornados ad the reporting of small tornados has increases which creates the illusion of an increase. A random increase in one year or two years is not climate. It is random variation in weather that means nothing. Claiming that it means something is as dumb as saying there is no global warming because we have a period of record cold temperatures in the winter.