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Offline wilber

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« Reply #810 on: July 07, 2019, 12:44:03 pm »
Well then I hope everything sticks to the schedule and I'll be able to experience the next big one from my own "subduction zone".

That's an average, they have been anywhere between 200 and 800 years.
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« Reply #811 on: July 07, 2019, 12:55:12 pm »
That's an average, they have been anywhere between 200 and 800 years.

Vancouver Island is due for a big one as the Cascadia Subduction plates have not been moving for some time.
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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #812 on: July 07, 2019, 01:31:30 pm »
Vancouver Island is due for a big one as the Cascadia Subduction plates have not been moving for some time.

Glad I'm inland and 600' ASL. On the other hand, I stare at Mt. Baker and it could blow up on our face one day.
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« Reply #814 on: July 12, 2019, 09:31:18 am »
https://www.conservative.ca/cpc/andrew-scheers-climate-plan/

At this point Scheer would have to start raping babies for me not to vote CPC.

analysis of the ScheerClimatePlan - by EnviroEconomics and Canadians for Clean Prosperity

- CPC Leader Andrew Scheer's proposed climate plan would cost households more money and result in more emissions than the Liberal government's current plan

- the Conservative plan would miss the Paris Agreement by a larger margin than the current Liberal government plan

- by 2022, the Conservative plan would carry a price tag that amounts to $3.8 billion more than the current set of Liberal government policies and proposals – including the savings that would come from the CPC promising to scrap the carbon tax and the proposed Clean Fuel Standard.

- the CPC Scheer climate plan would result in an average cost-per-household of $295 in 2022. The report acknowledges that provinces without the federal carbon tax in place would be "less adversely impacted," facing increased costs of just $187 per household.

- in regards the Paris targets, the current Liberal government plan is on track to miss them by 79 megatonnes. Scheer's plan would widen that gap to 109 megatonnes

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Report Summary:

This report analyzes the recently released Conservative Party of Canada Climate Plan (the Plan) to understand its emissions reduction potential and cost.  We find that the Plan would increase emissions by 9.1 Mt in 2022, relative to the current and announced measures being planned by the federal and provincial governments, as described in the most recent “additional measures” scenario from Environment and Climate Change Canada. The Plan would have a net cost of $3.8 billion by 2022 accounting for savings from removing existing measures including the carbon tax (regulatory charge) and the Clean Fuel Standard. This translates into a cost of $295 per household in all provinces and territories except B.C., Quebec and Newfoundland and Labrador that are subject to the federal carbon pricing benchmark or implemented economy-wide carbon pricing to avoid the federal regulatory charge. Residents of provinces that do not have the economy-wide carbon price (B.C., Quebec, and Newfoundland and Labrador) would have a lower cost of $187. The report also finds that the Plan would result in Canada missing the Paris target of 513 Mt in 2030 by 109 Mt, an increase of 30 Mt or 38% from the current 2030 projection from Environment and Climate Change Canada. It is not reasonable to assume the Plan, as currently outlined, is scalable to close the 2030 gap to Canada’s Paris target.

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #815 on: August 05, 2019, 10:10:16 pm »
The world's most efficient carbon capture technology revealed!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-08-02/we-already-have-the-world-s-most-efficient-carbon-capture-technology

...a tree.   The Empress tree, in particular.

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“The tree has a very Jack and the Beanstalk energy to it,” says Wendy Burton, whose 15-year-old Mesa, Ariz.-based timber company, World Tree, has planted more than 1,000 acres of empress.

I read an article a while back arguing that the most effective way to fight climate change right now would be just to plant as many trees as possible. Solar power? Sure. Nuclear power? Why not. Electric vehicles? All for it. But plant trees? Definitely. 

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« Reply #816 on: August 05, 2019, 11:03:34 pm »
The world's most efficient carbon capture technology revealed!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-08-02/we-already-have-the-world-s-most-efficient-carbon-capture-technology

...a tree.   The Empress tree, in particular.

I read an article a while back arguing that the most effective way to fight climate change right now would be just to plant as many trees as possible. Solar power? Sure. Nuclear power? Why not. Electric vehicles? All for it. But plant trees? Definitely. 

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Trees quite happily suck up the CO2 and give us back good old O2. That makes us healthy and hey they look nice too.

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« Reply #817 on: August 17, 2019, 12:55:17 am »
Hey where is TimG to attempt to refute the latest data showing july/2019 to be the hottest month of global temperature on record? As are the last five years. 
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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #818 on: August 17, 2019, 01:40:21 pm »
Hey where is TimG to attempt to refute the latest data showing july/2019 to be the hottest month of global temperature on record? As are the last five years.

I haven't seen TimG around here in many weeks, anyone know what he is up to?

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« Reply #819 on: August 17, 2019, 02:05:40 pm »
I haven't seen TimG around here in many weeks, anyone know what he is up to?

Just a guess but I seem to recall he disappeared after this site went offline for a few days back when. 

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #820 on: August 17, 2019, 02:50:28 pm »
Just a guess but I seem to recall he disappeared after this site went offline for a few days back when.

I wonder if he thinks the site was gone permanently. I remember reading the message one day that said something to the effect of being archived permanently so I assumed JMT was fed up with the Vid stupidity and closed shop. I even signed into MLW for the first time in a year or so, but after looking around for a few minutes decided against it. Luckily the "permanently" was not so when I checked back here a few days later.

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« Reply #821 on: August 17, 2019, 03:05:27 pm »
I wonder if he thinks the site was gone permanently. I remember reading the message one day that said something to the effect of being archived permanently so I assumed JMT was fed up with the Vid stupidity and closed shop. I even signed into MLW for the first time in a year or so, but after looking around for a few minutes decided against it. Luckily the "permanently" was not so when I checked back here a few days later.

I went through pretty much the same process. Perhaps Tim read "permanently" and didn't check back.

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« Reply #822 on: August 24, 2019, 02:21:58 pm »
Just listened to some news of the fires raging in the Amazon rain forest. Trying to get my head around the description of "a soccer field and a half per minute". Yikes! Will it recover and how long will that take?

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« Reply #823 on: October 09, 2019, 10:05:11 pm »
Glad I'm not in \denver. Temps are forecast to drop from 80's F to below zero and feet of snow is expected.

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #824 on: November 26, 2019, 12:11:33 pm »
It's time for this article:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/11/25/why-everything-they-say-about-climate-change-is-wrong/#6b3fd7bd12d6

Journalists and activists alike have an obligation to describe environmental problems honestly and accurately, even if they fear doing so will reduce their news value or salience with the public. There is good evidence that the catastrophist framing of climate change is self-defeating because it alienates and polarizes many people. And exaggerating climate change risks distracting us from other important issues including ones we might have more near-term control over.