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Offline Black Dog

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Apartheid state back on its bullsh*t
« on: May 17, 2021, 01:02:17 pm »
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/16/more-deaths-gaza-israel-launches-most-intense-raids-yet

If you told me there was a country out there that was bombing civilians, staging ethnic cleansing in its own borders and doing so while its leader was facing trials for bribery, fraud and corruption, I'd say you were talking about a real banana republic and I'd be right.

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Re: Apartheid state back on its bullsh*t
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2021, 06:02:15 pm »
It's become customary to kill a bunch of Palestinians every few years for fighting against land left, but this latest seems to be more of a wag the dog situation for Netanyahu. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2021, 08:58:43 pm »
It's become customary to kill a bunch of Palestinians every few years for fighting against land left, but this latest seems to be more of a wag the dog situation for Netanyahu.

Agreed.  Pretty horrifying brand of cynicism when you can stoke up support for yourself by initiating a fresh conflict and killing a few hundred people.
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Re: Apartheid state back on its bullsh*t
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2021, 10:55:54 pm »
It's become customary to kill a bunch of Palestinians every few years for fighting against land left, but this latest seems to be more of a wag the dog situation for Netanyahu.

What's really interesting is seeing how the usual Hasbara bullshit from Israel and its proxies isn't really landing anymore: mass demonstrations in cities across the world, social media tides seem solidly in the pro-Palestine camp. I wonder if the BLM protests have changed the way people look at oppression and settler colonialism outside of our own context.


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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2021, 06:12:23 am »
It strikes me that the world should put a time limit on these two reaching a Peace agreement.  It's been over 50 years since the 1967 war

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Re: Apartheid state back on its bullsh*t
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2021, 09:55:02 am »
short HBO segment from John Oliver... states Israel is committing a 'war crime'

This is what I mean about the tide turning. I can't imagine something like this airing 10, 15 years ago without a massive uproar.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2021, 11:44:17 am »
This is what I mean about the tide turning. I can't imagine something like this airing 10, 15 years ago without a massive uproar.

The world is sick of their ****.  If Israel doesn't move this forward without Hammas etc. and take the initiative then the world will start to take Palestine's side more and more.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2021, 12:20:18 pm »
This is what I mean about the tide turning. I can't imagine something like this airing 10, 15 years ago without a massive uproar.

As long as Israel has the monetary backing of the USA, they dinít give a **** what protestors across the world might be saying about them.

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2021, 12:25:06 pm »
As long as Israel has the monetary backing of the USA, they dinít give a **** what protestors across the world might be saying about them.

So American voters decide.... again.

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2021, 12:27:25 pm »
So American voters decide.... again.

No.  This will not be an election issue.

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Re: Apartheid state back on its bullsh*t
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2021, 12:39:35 pm »
This is what I mean about the tide turning. I can't imagine something like this airing 10, 15 years ago without a massive uproar.

I was going to state something similar... then opted to just include/identify it as HBO sourced; the implication being that should/might give cover to protect Oliver from any 'job threatening' blow-back. And yes, in the early 2000s it was enough for Bill Maher to lose sponsors, then ultimately his 'Politically Incorrect' ABC network show - for objecting to the 911 perpetrators being labelled as cowards... arguing that ''we have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away.''

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2021, 12:51:04 pm »
Not that it's a solution to this debate, but does anyone really believe any two-state solution would stop any of this?

The fringes of both sides are hell-bent on the destruction of the other. The leadership there needs to change.
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2021, 01:09:27 pm »
1. Not that it's a solution to this debate, but does anyone really believe any two-state solution would stop any of this?

2. The fringes of both sides are hell-bent on the destruction of the other. The leadership there needs to change.
1. Presumably there would be buy-in on any solution.

2. Yes,agree with that.

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2021, 01:09:59 pm »
Yitzhak Rabin was such a leader...
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