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eyeball:
Who didn't see this military and human rights debacle coming 20 years ago? Warhacks can be as hopelessly wooly-headed as any bleeding heart when it comes to splaining why we needed to be in Afghanistan. The reasons changed like the seasons but more often than not they usually focused on our need to help Afghan school girls. That being the case I said, some 10 years ago, every returning empty Canadian military transport plane should have been stuffed with Afghan school girls.
Of course that's when the bleeding hearts switched to being wooly-headed as it was explained we wouldn't need to because we went to win, not run away when the going got tough. Sure...hows that working out btw? And no, I don't take any joy in being right. I'm as ashamed as anyone about how many school girls will likely die as a result of our interference in Afghanistan's affairs.
It should have been Saudi Arabia that was invaded in retaliation for what happened on 9/11. There wasn't a single Afghan amongst the hijackers.
If at first you don't succeed then try try again I was always told.
guest7:
--- Quote from: eyeball on August 14, 2021, 09:26:26 pm ---Who didn't see this military and human rights debacle coming 20 years ago? Warhacks can be as hopelessly wooly-headed as any bleeding heart when it comes to splaining why we needed to be in Afghanistan. The reasons changed like the seasons but more often than not they usually focused on our need to help Afghan school girls. That being the case I said, some 10 years ago, every returning empty Canadian military transport plane should have been stuffed with Afghan school girls.
Of course that's when the bleeding hearts switched to being wooly-headed as it was explained we wouldn't need to because we went to win, not run away when the going got tough. Sure...hows that working out btw? And no, I don't take any joy in being right. I'm as ashamed as anyone about how many school girls will likely die as a result of our interference in Afghanistan's affairs.
It should have been Saudi Arabia that was invaded in retaliation for what happened on 9/11. There wasn't a single Afghan amongst the hijackers.
If at first you don't succeed then try try again I was always told.
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The Taliban could have just handed over Bin Laden to the US. That would have saved a lot of time and effort. And lives. All those schoolgirls would be fine now.
You know, they don't have to kill them.
Squidward von Squidderson:
20 years of war accomplished…. Nada.
BC_cheque:
Iraq war was so bad that to show yourself a moderate, you had to compare it to Afghanistan where there was at least a bit of legitimacy. I thought Afghanistan was a bad idea from the start, long before it was cool to say so out loud.
Germany and Japan turned into examples of successful nation building but I think it's high time to accept that those two were the exceptions to the rule and Africa, Middle East and South America are better examples of meddling in other nations.
Will we ever learn? I doubt it, eurocentrism has no limits in its arrogance.
BC_cheque:
--- Quote from: bcsapper on August 14, 2021, 10:40:18 pm ---The Taliban could have just handed over Bin Laden to the US. That would have saved a lot of time and effort. And lives. All those schoolgirls would be fine now.
You know, they don't have to kill them.
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Thing is, we know they suck. Nobody ever argued otherwise.
The idea that we can turn them into something else through war and occupation is where the disagreements arise.
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