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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1080 on: February 03, 2019, 03:53:10 am »
Three ex-Muslim women talk about the hijab in this video:



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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1081 on: February 03, 2019, 10:34:26 am »
Three ex-Muslim women talk about the hijab in this video:

I also know a woman who chose to go decades without wearing a hijab, she's a very modern woman, but then chose on her own to become more religious and chose to start wearing the hijab.

The hijab in itself isn't wrong.  Being forced to wear a hijab is wrong.  Any absolutist position that says "the hijab is good" or "the hijab is bad" is wrong, because it all depends on choice.
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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1082 on: February 05, 2019, 09:37:52 am »
I also know a woman who chose to go decades without wearing a hijab, she's a very modern woman, but then chose on her own to become more religious and chose to start wearing the hijab.

The hijab in itself isn't wrong.  Being forced to wear a hijab is wrong.  Any absolutist position that says "the hijab is good" or "the hijab is bad" is wrong, because it all depends on choice.

Totally agree. May I also add, the choice to wear one is CULTURAL. I do not doubt those who choose to wear one call it a RELIGIOUS choice, but I would argue its cultural because no where in the Koran does it say wear one.

I argue the same thing about Christianity and Judaism or any other religion when people of such religions interpret them in certain ways to believe it tells them to be a good person they must adapt certain attire

 I do not believe maintaining a beard or dressing in black, or wearing a Russian bear hat will  make me a good Jew as some do. The religion does not say that.  It does say like other religions if I carry out positive actions, i.e.,  deeds helping others that would make me a god Jew and for that matter Christian or Muslim, etc..

 I also openly challenge any belief that teaches the human body is dirty or provocative and needs to be discouraged or covered up as being absurd. I think repressing sexuality doesn't do anything but create stronger urges to express it. I give a classic example.  If you look at a naked person, or a person wearing clothing that is suggestive,  the latter is far more sexually enticing. Suggestion as to what is underneath encourages imagination which is far more provocative than the naked truth.

In fact the original purpose of coverings had 3 purposes; one being to protect against sunstroke and sunburn, the other to protect against sandstorms, and the third to hide the gender of women when men from invading armies looked for people to ****. It had nothing to do with religion although indirectly if you prayed outside you'd need to cover your head from the sun.

Think about it. Walking  on a nudist beach,  seeing  men dangle at gay parades,  or woman flapping ****  in the wind,  might not be as provocative as some would think it is in Saudi Arabia. I find nothing provocative about dead lampreys, wet hair, puckered orifices.  I mean Gold bless doctors for dealing with them but thanks I prefer air brushed, plucked false images without the skin rashes, cysts, pimples. sores, lesions, scars, etc.

The human body with due respect, can be quite stomach turning. This is why I believe naked truth is sometimes needed not to mention surgical gloves.

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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1083 on: April 22, 2019, 07:18:23 pm »

Al Quaeda operates in Canada raising funds no different then how Tiger Elam did during the civil war in Sri Lanka 

Prophetic. 

Why did this organization target Christians in Sri Lanka ?  Seems like a miscalculation to me.

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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1084 on: April 22, 2019, 08:16:06 pm »
Prophetic. 

Why did this organization target Christians in Sri Lanka ?  Seems like a miscalculation to me.

"International anti-terrorism experts said even if a local group had carried out the attacks, it was likely that al Qaeda or Islamic State were involved, given the level of sophistication."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sri-lanka-blasts/sri-lanka-says-attacks-carried-out-by-suicide-bombers-international-network-involved-idUSKCN1RY068

al-Qaeda targets all people who do not practice what they see as true Islam, even most Muslims whom they consider "apostates". Bin Laden often referred to Christians and Westerners as "Crusaders".  Will be interesting to see if there's a more specific motive other than Christian-hate.
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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1085 on: April 22, 2019, 08:40:08 pm »

al-Qaeda targets all people who do not practice what they see as true Islam, even most Muslims whom they consider "apostates". Bin Laden often referred to Christians and Westerners as "Crusaders".  Will be interesting to see if there's a more specific motive other than Christian-hate.

Yeah, but... this target required a lot of resources and didn't yield much Western terror.

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« Reply #1086 on: April 22, 2019, 09:42:53 pm »
Yeah, but... this target required a lot of resources and didn't yield much Western terror.

I was thinking the same thing.  A poor country with a very small Christian population.  I wonder if this is retaliation for the New Zealand shootings.
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« Reply #1087 on: April 22, 2019, 10:37:04 pm »
Yeah, but... this target required a lot of resources and didn't yield much Western terror.

Well they aren't just at war with the West.  Al-Qaeda also targets "the near enemy" , ie: apostates in their own countries.  That includes Christians, as well as Muslims and Jews etc.

Anyone who doesn't practice their "true" fundamentalist Sunni version of Islam is their enemy and must convert or die, according to those nutbars.  They've blown up a ton of Muslim civilians (cafes, buses etc) in Muslim-majority middle-eastern countries.
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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1088 on: April 23, 2019, 05:41:27 am »
Well they aren't just at war with the West.  Al-Qaeda also targets "the near enemy" , ie: apostates in their own countries.  That includes Christians, as well as Muslims and Jews etc.

Ok but I still don't see much strategy in this.  Bin Laden wanted to draw the west into a Holy War and did so brilliantly.  This is just killing people.  The number killed will be regenerated through the birth rate in a few months.

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Anyone who doesn't practice their "true" fundamentalist Sunni version of Islam is their enemy and must convert or die, according to those nutbars.  They've blown up a ton of Muslim civilians (cafes, buses etc) in Muslim-majority middle-eastern countries.

Sure sure but what's their real game plan ?

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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1089 on: April 23, 2019, 11:40:07 am »

Sure sure but what's their real game plan ?

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/a-call-to-the-muslims-of-the-world/

Not sure if you will read this, as it's not flattering to Islam, but since you asked......

The Center for Inquiry advocates humanist values and a secular society based on reason and science.

The article was written by an Islamic scholar in 2004, but was recently reprinted.
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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1090 on: April 23, 2019, 11:56:00 am »
You fundamentally misunderstood the question.

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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1091 on: April 23, 2019, 12:04:57 pm »
You fundamentally misunderstood the question.

What were you asking?  It appears you were talking about jihad and what the game plan behind killing is when the victims can easily be replaced by normal birth rates.

The article explains what the game plan is.

What did I misunderstand?
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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1092 on: April 23, 2019, 12:39:25 pm »
The strategy is not formulated by suicide bombers.

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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1093 on: April 23, 2019, 12:53:21 pm »
The strategy is not formulated by suicide bombers.

You're right.  I have no idea what you're talking about.

What strategy?

Are you saying that suicide bombers have a different strategy than other jihadis?

Sometimes you are so cryptic and esoteric, I'm more direct.
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Re: 1000 Muslims March
« Reply #1094 on: April 23, 2019, 01:06:05 pm »
I was thinking the same thing.  A poor country with a very small Christian population.  I wonder if this is retaliation for the New Zealand shootings.

Apparently that is the conclusion:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/sri-lanka-bombings-latest-updates/2019/04/22/f2afe32a-6531-11e9-a698-2a8f808c9cfb_story.html?utm_term=.71de064fb7f5
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