Canadian Politics Today

Notice the similarities this survey has with the Environics survey of Canadian Muslims where the younger generation is both more religious and more liberal than the older generation.   Both these surveys also support the studies which show that immigrants take on the same values and similar behaviors as their adopted countries over two to three generations. 

Well the issue is that birth rates in the west continue to decline and are below replacement level, which means more and more Muslims and other cultural groups will continue to immigrate to western countries in the decades to come.  So while each generation inevitably become closer to their native culture, the native culture in 2-3 generations will be different than now as more immigrants with third world ways of life & belief arrive.  Over the next few decades and beyond we should expect more, not less, people who share the views in the survey.  The white westerners will continue to decline in pop and will procreate with people from non-western countries.  It seems inevitable for white westerners to become virtually extinct if trends continue, but hopefully the liberal democratic societies they've created will remain.  What seems clear is that third world cultures are more socially conservative.

I assume as third world cultures clash more and more with modern western liberal culture/values/laws, these kinds of discussions we're having are just going to get more intense.  Eventually we'll have no choice but to confront what specifically is and isn't acceptable in our society and enforce it (or not). 

Well the issue is that birth rates in the west continue to decline and are below replacement level, which means more and more Muslims and other cultural groups will continue to immigrate to western countries in the decades to come. 

Short of forcing Westerners into having babies, what do you suppose we could do about this?

So while each generation inevitably become closer to their native culture, the native culture in 2-3 generations will be different than now as more immigrants with third world ways of life & belief arrive.  Over the next few decades and beyond we should expect more, not less, people who share the views in the survey.  The white westerners will continue to decline in pop and will procreate with people from non-western countries.  It seems inevitable for white westerners to become virtually extinct if trends continue, but hopefully the liberal democratic societies they've created will remain.  What seems clear is that third world cultures are more socially conservative.

Each succeeding generation of immigrants takes on the values of the dominant culture.  Western Liberalism is the dominant culture and each succeeding generation of Muslims will take on those values. 

I certainly expect Canadian culture to change, evolve or devolve, over time; it would be contrary to all of human history if it did not.  But I doubt it will be as a result of Muslim immigration.  I read a book some time ago that made the argument that when humans feel threatened by things outside their control (disease, famine, war) religion and conservatism tend to increase in that society.  When a society is wealthy and feels safe, liberalism increases and religiosity decreases.  What do you suppose will happen to Western culture as the effects of climate change increase?

In the short term, it looks to me as if there will be an increase of violence around the world and a resurgence of conservative Christianity in Western countries as people feel less safe.  Scapegoating Muslims is a distraction to hide the real issues.  Wealth and power inequality, the rise of nationalism and the fear of what a declining birthrate means for Europeans will be more significant drivers of violence than the fact of Muslim immigration to Western countries.  But Muslims are being set up to take the blame and the punishment for our own lack of baby production.

I assume as third world cultures clash more and more with modern western liberal culture/values/laws, these kinds of discussions we're having are just going to get more intense.  Eventually we'll have no choice but to confront what specifically is and isn't acceptable in our society and enforce it (or not).

Are they clashing?  Do you see people from third world cultures marching in the street, demanding that we live by a third world culture?  I don't;  I see Christian groups and Black groups and LGBT groups and White power groups demanding cultural and legal changes around abortion, gay marriage, equality.  I don't see Muslims or Hindus or South Americans marching or demonstrating to demand anything really.  I do see lots of other people claiming third world immigrants are "making demands", usually based on some story that's been blown way out of proportion to the actual event.

It's World Hijab Day!

https://worldhijabday.com/invitation-to-hijab-for-a-day/

It's a great day to reject patriarchal rules by rejecting the "invitation to Hijab for a day."

 -k

why so threatened by a head-scarf? 

.......says a man.

No one really cares about headscarves...

says a woman; one that doesn't appear to recognize there are degrees of 'head covering' within so-called respective cultural boundaries. I mean, c'mon... those randomly chosen images show smiling faces! I tried to find images from Canada showing women being forced to accept ms. kimmy's declared patriarchal servitude - but I came up short. Can ya help out here?

Says a man;one that doesn't appear to recognize there are degrees of 'oppression' within so-called respective cultural boundaries.

But Canada!  Good one!

I would support a world hijab on a stick day, but then we'd have to have a world throw her in jail day.  I could never support that!

Don't let a one off obscure your thinking. Many Muslim women in Canada choose for themselves to wear a head covering, and not because they are threatened in any way.

http://theconversation.com/why-muslim-women-wear-a-hijab-3-essential-reads-110933

Of course they do.  Many women choose to wear a burka, believe it or not, which is why I'm against laws banning them.

None of that changes the fact that a world hijab day celebrates women's oppression as much as it does their choice.  Apparently it also celebrates wilful blindness on the part of many.