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Offline SirJohn

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Re: Thanks for the Ignore List Idea
« Reply #75 on: February 15, 2018, 12:04:39 pm »
I think a more important question is whether or not schools should be teaching values. If not what would it look like if they didn't. When two kids get into a fight, are we to just let them go at it without any consequences because any sort of punishment would be value-normative? Why is it "progressive" values to punish students for behaving badly by being harmful to others either verbally or physically? Honestly, there's nothing rational about this discussion. It's just another example of individuals' unsubstantiated whining about "social justice warriors," or "progressives," or "liberals" [which ironically has nothing to do with "social justice" and more to do with liberty].

Are you under the illusion that schools allowed fighting 'back in the day'? Schools had strict rules of behaviour and strict enforcement of those rules. They did not, however, see it as their mission to ensure that every student felt good about his or herself, that they be rewarded for 'trying' even if they sucked at something, that they be protected from unflattering assessments of their schoolmates (unless teacher overheard) or that they must embrace all races, religions, ethnicities, and sexual and gender orientations without preference or prejudice. They felt it was the job of the school teacher to teach English, Math, Science, Geography and History. The job of teaching a child morality was deemed to belong to family and church.

At some point, however, the progressives in education decided it was the job of the schools to teach morality - their morality, not what the parents of the child in question might consider to be proper morality. And in general, some of this is good. But it was never the school's job, and they've pushed aside core educational needs to make more room for morality teaching - or indoctrination. 
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