Author Topic: BC v Wet'suet'en  (Read 11517 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline waldo

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8713
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #420 on: March 15, 2020, 06:38:46 pm »
Highlighting those 3rd-party questions & challenges being made to the legitimacy of the existing minority subset of 5 "hereditary chiefs" presuming to speak for the Wet'suwet'en is disparaging only if that minority subset is legitimate. Member Granny, are you categorically stating those 5 "hereditary chiefs" hold/received their titles legitimately? Is that what you're saying member Granny?
I'm not one who decides that. Nor are you.

of course! You're banking on the legitimacy of that suspect minority (the claimed illegitimate 5) only because they stand against the pipeline. Of course you do. You don't respect the expressed wants... and very real needs of the 20 First Nations... of the Wet'suwet'en in favour of the pipeline; those who negotiated agreements with the province/CGL. Again, you're nothing but a fake, fraud and dishonest purveyor of bullshyte. I will go so far as to categorically state that all rights/title means to you, is its another false ploy you utilize to attempt to support your prevailing anti-pipeline agenda. That's it! You're nothing more than a down&dirty enviro-activist plying your own special brand of 21st century colonialism against First Nations... 20 First Nations... who want/accept the CGL pipeline route and the benefits/opportunities the pipeline brings to them. Why are you trying to keep the IndigenousManWoman down, member Granny - why?
Old Old x 1 View List

Offline northlandmagus

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #421 on: November 01, 2020, 04:09:06 pm »
Here is an article illustrating what a hopeless mess LIE-berals have made of the Native Affairs Ministry. With some comments of my own in brackets):
 
Saskatchewan First Nation wins $4.5-million from federal government
   
"Mr. Cameron said he hopes an improved relationship between Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and indigenous peoples means the government will settle similar cases at a faster rate.

"Let's not waste thousands and thousands of dollars on legal fees. The decision has been made. Precedent has been set. Therefore compensate these bands a lot sooner than how long it took Beardy's and Okemasis to get a decision," he said."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/saskatchewan-first-nation-says-its-getting-45-million-from-feds-over-1885-rebellion/article33438197/

(OH my, natives are not blind. They have recognized that LIE-berals are frantic to buy votes and are cashing in on every issue that LIE-berals perceive as a weakness or embarrassment. The truth is that LIE-berals would do better if they encourage natives to look to the future rather than dwell in the past!)

(One has only to look at the debacle that is the LIE-beral Inquiry into Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women to recognize the problem. It is certainly tragic that so many native women have gone missing- but it is NOT racism that has prevented killers from being caught! The lack of killers on trial is a function of the awful life natives lead- a woman lost in drug addiction and desperate for another fix and intending to obtain the funds by **** is often careless of her situation and thus is vulnerable- and due to her illegal addiction she will be quite discreet about her activities and social contacts- which makes her difficult to track! One has only to look at the recent drastic drop in the number of killers arrested in Toronto to recognize how difficult it can be to track a gang or people who do not want to be followed!)

(The ugly reality is that the LAST thing natives need is to be treated like badly cared for pets! They should not be showered with un-earned gifts when they bark loudly or bite the keepers ankles! Corruption is ENDEMIC on too many reserves and LIE-berals would have a much greater and more beneficial influence on native lives if they knocked off the “poor sad native victim” and started to demand that natives function efficiently for their own sakes! Where is natives find gumption and get up and go if LIE-berals perpetuate the myth of native impotence?)

(The 1885 Metis Rebellion was a foolish and irresponsible attempt by Metis and Crees to turn back time and restore about a third of North America to the political state of anarchy existed during the time of the Hudson`s Bay Company administration- which was focused ONLY on the sale of furs and trade goods- there was NO law- as Peter C. Newman chronicles in his trilogy about the Gentleman Company of Adventurers of the Hudson`s Bay! Metis leader Lois Riel was a clever man who was educated by the Jesuits in Montreal- it is just toop bad for Riel that he did not keep up with political and technical advances and ended up judged as a traitor to Canada after botching his creation of an Alberta govt- he took too long and Ottawa beat him to the punch! The Metis Rebellion was a tragic comedy of foolish errors with a large cast of foolish players and does not represent any current political reality! It certainly is Not worth e4.5 million dollars- frankly it aint even worth $4.50! The award to Saskatchewan natives is nothing more than LIE-beral habit of sucking up to whiners and buying votes!)     

Offline waldo

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8713
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #422 on: November 01, 2020, 04:41:22 pm »
Here is an article illustrating what a hopeless mess Liberals have made of the Native Affairs Ministry. With some comments of my own in brackets):
 
Saskatchewan First Nation wins $4.5-million from federal government
   
"Mr. Cameron said he hopes an improved relationship between Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and indigenous peoples means the government will settle similar cases at a faster rate.

"Let's not waste thousands and thousands of dollars on legal fees. The decision has been made. Precedent has been set. Therefore compensate these bands a lot sooner than how long it took Beardy's and Okemasis to get a decision," he said."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/saskatchewan-first-nation-says-its-getting-45-million-from-feds-over-1885-rebellion/article33438197/

(OH my, natives are not blind. They have recognized that Liberals are frantic to buy votes and are cashing in on every issue that Liberals perceive as a weakness or embarrassment. The truth is that Liberals would do better if they encourage natives to look to the future rather than dwell in the past!)

here, let the waldo correct your obvious confusion. That decision award was made by the Specific Claims Tribunal that Harper Conservatives established in 2008... the tribunal is, "an independent adjudicative body comprised of up to 6 full time Federal judges appointed from Provincial Superior Courts across the country."

Offline northlandmagus

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #423 on: November 02, 2020, 12:57:42 pm »
Oh MY! And should we be asking just how many LIE-berals had to be shoved onto the committee - BEFORE that award to natives could be sent out? And should we be asking whether that award was supposed to be INSTEAD of other grants, gifts and bribes subsequently offered by LIE-berals seeking to BUY native votes?  Meaning other grants, gifts and bribes that Harper WOULD NOT have offered!

LIE-berals are encouraging native radicals to run wild! Harper was demanding better behaviour and was prepared to BUY it by cutting off aid to bands that did not produce HONEST BOOKS and receipts!

            Here is yet another article illustrating just how careless LIE-berals are of public safety and justice issues. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Fear on the farm in Beiseker, Alta., after thefts raise safety concerns

Calgary Herald. By Yolande Cole. March 14/2018

As rural crime rates remain in the spotlight in Alberta, Beiseker-area farmer Howard Hixt is one of the latest residents to raise concerns about theft in his community.

RCMP are investigating after Hixt’s tractor was stolen over the weekend. It was the second time his family has had to file a police report, after his parents’ house in the area was broken into a few weeks ago.

“Somebody pried open the deadbolt on their front door and they had quite a bit of their possessions out of their house taken, so it’s getting to be kind of a concern in an area that we thought was safe for raising our family,” said Hixt.

Hixt, 44, added that since taking over his grandfather’s farm after graduating from university, this is the first time they’ve had farm equipment stolen.

“We’ve never had anything like this happen,” he said. “It seems like it’s something that’s getting out of hand in our community.”

He noted that a year ago, friends of theirs had their home broken into while one of the residents was at home having a nap.

“It’s a safety concern for us, our neighbours, our friends,” he said.

Beiseker RCMP Sgt. Norm Mercier said Mounties have been encouraging residents to call in any suspicious activities, vehicles or people.

(It is tempting to blame this epidemic of thefts from farms on natives - and there certainly have been a number of high profile shootings of native thieves caught by aggrieved white property owners- but I point out that Ontari-owe went through a phase where thefts of materials and construction equipment from housing sites was quite common. Shall we assume that the thieves who used to prey on Ontari-owe construction companies have moved on to other less well guarded sites?)

While there may be a perception that police can’t do anything in certain situations, “that’s not true,” he said.

(Yeah- making a report to cops after valuables are stolen is helpful in getting a faster settlement from your insurance company- and nets you higher premiums as well- so some good news and some bad!)

Sgt Mercier noted accurate police statistics can lead to additional members and funding, and can allow analysts in the force’s crime reduction unit to come up with solutions for areas that are being targeted more frequently.

(Oh yeah- we have all seen how well Toronto Silly Hall is responding to the gangs shooting each other in the city! And mayor Jackass John the Sorry Tory has told us he will hire 200 new cops this year- but so far has only managed to find 20 in 6 months! Shall we ask if NOBODY wants to be a cop in LIE-beral dominated Toronto where the Radical White Haters hold sway?)

(And its too bad LIE-berals DO NOT WANT ACCURATE POLICE STATISTICS anyway!!!!! If they had such statistics it would put the LIE to long standing LIE-beral assurances that crime rates are DOWN and no new cops are needed!)

The provincial government announced a rural crime plan Friday that includes funding for 39 new RCMP officers, 40 civilian staff and 10 Crown prosecutors focussed on rural crime.

(Shall we ask what good more cops are if the LIE-beral hug a thug judges are practicing their usual catch and release crap? More cops operating under LIE-beral rules simply means the paperwork is expedited and thugs get bail SOONER!)

The announcement came amid continued debate about rural crime and how far landowners can go to protect their property.

(What is really needed here is some SERIOUS DETERRENCE in the form of harsh sentences for the drunken and drug addled PARASITES plaguing us! But LIE-berals will refuse such a solution for fear of losing votes and for fear of the cost of incarcerating thugs! LIE-berals have much better and more selfish uses for our gravy than paying bills for jailed criminals!)

Last week, more than 150 people gathered outside the courthouse in Okotoks to support Edouard Maurice, who is facing charges of aggravated assault, pointing a firearm and careless use of a firearm following an incident on Feb. 24 when he woke up to find two suspected trespassers rummaging through vehicles on his property.

According to Alberta RCMP Supt. John Bennett, property crime in rural areas has increased 23 per cent over the last five years. Offences include break and enters, vehicle theft, theft under $5,000 and possession of stolen goods.

(And yet LIE-berals blandly assure us that ALL crime is DOWN!)

Violent crimes, however, are down, he said.

“We understand completely that people feel vulnerable and frustrated,” said Bennett, who is in charge of a squad that focuses on criminals who appear to be behind a disproportionate number of calls.

(Yes- a Toronto cop who defied the rules and collected race based statistics about 25 years ago, concluded that black gang members represent a SMALL MINORITY in Toronto but they commit the great majority of crimes! The LIE-beral response to the cops numbers was to rage at the lack of respect for the rules- AND LIE-BERALS WERE UTTERLY SILENT ABOUT THE TRUTH THAT WAS REVEALED! LIE-berals also questioned the accuracy of the numbers- with the cop simply pointing out: “I looked at the mug shots- with black guys going in one pile and other races in other piles”!)

(LIE-berals DO NOT wish to discuss the utter failure of their vote buying immigration policy that has bought us a criminal underclass infesting our not so affordable housing and that criminal class and its family members regularly vote LIE-beral in exchange for facing LIE-beral hug a thug judges operating a WEAK legal system! Our legal system offer up LOTS of chances for plea bargaining in which major crimes become small ones and minor crimes are completely FORGOTTEN!)

(AS I have said before- crime is evolving and becoming more sophisticated- and LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY IGNORING THIS REALITY!)

Sgt Mercier is encouraging people not to take on intruders themselves, but to leave it to police.

“You never know how someone may react when confronted,” he said. “We don’t want to see anyone getting hurt.”

(REALLY? WE don’t want to see people get hurt? LIE-berals demonstrate how out of touch they are with Cdns- a good many of whom think that a would be thief would BENEFIT from spending a few days in hospital after being riddled with buckshot from an angry property owner- especially since LIE-beral hug a thug judges practising their catch and release crap don’t see any reason to the PUNISH THIEVING PARASITES!!)

Hixt said he knows rural residents who have set up high-tech security systems — a move he is considering himself, following the tractor theft.

“I guess we’ll just have to factor that into our expenses,” he said.

(Yes- the need for and cost of expanded personal security in a suddenly more dangerous world is just one more dubious gift from our LIE-beral overlords!)


Offline Montgomery

  • The Box
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 724
  • Location: vancouver Island
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #424 on: November 02, 2020, 03:34:04 pm »
Oh MY! And should we be asking just how many LIE-berals had to be shoved onto the committee - BEFORE that award to natives could be sent out? And should we be asking whether that award was supposed to be INSTEAD of other grants, gifts and bribes subsequently offered by LIE-berals seeking to BUY native votes?  Meaning other grants, gifts and bribes that Harper WOULD NOT have offered!

LIE-berals are encouraging native radicals to run wild! Harper was demanding better behaviour and was prepared to BUY it by cutting off aid to bands that did not produce HONEST BOOKS and receipts!

            Here is yet another article illustrating just how careless LIE-berals are of public safety and justice issues. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Fear on the farm in Beiseker, Alta., after thefts raise safety concerns

Calgary Herald. By Yolande Cole. March 14/2018

As rural crime rates remain in the spotlight in Alberta, Beiseker-area farmer Howard Hixt is one of the latest residents to raise concerns about theft in his community.

RCMP are investigating after Hixt’s tractor was stolen over the weekend. It was the second time his family has had to file a police report, after his parents’ house in the area was broken into a few weeks ago.

“Somebody pried open the deadbolt on their front door and they had quite a bit of their possessions out of their house taken, so it’s getting to be kind of a concern in an area that we thought was safe for raising our family,” said Hixt.

Hixt, 44, added that since taking over his grandfather’s farm after graduating from university, this is the first time they’ve had farm equipment stolen.

“We’ve never had anything like this happen,” he said. “It seems like it’s something that’s getting out of hand in our community.”

He noted that a year ago, friends of theirs had their home broken into while one of the residents was at home having a nap.

“It’s a safety concern for us, our neighbours, our friends,” he said.

Beiseker RCMP Sgt. Norm Mercier said Mounties have been encouraging residents to call in any suspicious activities, vehicles or people.

(It is tempting to blame this epidemic of thefts from farms on natives - and there certainly have been a number of high profile shootings of native thieves caught by aggrieved white property owners- but I point out that Ontari-owe went through a phase where thefts of materials and construction equipment from housing sites was quite common. Shall we assume that the thieves who used to prey on Ontari-owe construction companies have moved on to other less well guarded sites?)

While there may be a perception that police can’t do anything in certain situations, “that’s not true,” he said.

(Yeah- making a report to cops after valuables are stolen is helpful in getting a faster settlement from your insurance company- and nets you higher premiums as well- so some good news and some bad!)

Sgt Mercier noted accurate police statistics can lead to additional members and funding, and can allow analysts in the force’s crime reduction unit to come up with solutions for areas that are being targeted more frequently.

(Oh yeah- we have all seen how well Toronto Silly Hall is responding to the gangs shooting each other in the city! And mayor Jackass John the Sorry Tory has told us he will hire 200 new cops this year- but so far has only managed to find 20 in 6 months! Shall we ask if NOBODY wants to be a cop in LIE-beral dominated Toronto where the Radical White Haters hold sway?)

(And its too bad LIE-berals DO NOT WANT ACCURATE POLICE STATISTICS anyway!!!!! If they had such statistics it would put the LIE to long standing LIE-beral assurances that crime rates are DOWN and no new cops are needed!)

The provincial government announced a rural crime plan Friday that includes funding for 39 new RCMP officers, 40 civilian staff and 10 Crown prosecutors focussed on rural crime.

(Shall we ask what good more cops are if the LIE-beral hug a thug judges are practicing their usual catch and release crap? More cops operating under LIE-beral rules simply means the paperwork is expedited and thugs get bail SOONER!)

The announcement came amid continued debate about rural crime and how far landowners can go to protect their property.

(What is really needed here is some SERIOUS DETERRENCE in the form of harsh sentences for the drunken and drug addled PARASITES plaguing us! But LIE-berals will refuse such a solution for fear of losing votes and for fear of the cost of incarcerating thugs! LIE-berals have much better and more selfish uses for our gravy than paying bills for jailed criminals!)

Last week, more than 150 people gathered outside the courthouse in Okotoks to support Edouard Maurice, who is facing charges of aggravated assault, pointing a firearm and careless use of a firearm following an incident on Feb. 24 when he woke up to find two suspected trespassers rummaging through vehicles on his property.

According to Alberta RCMP Supt. John Bennett, property crime in rural areas has increased 23 per cent over the last five years. Offences include break and enters, vehicle theft, theft under $5,000 and possession of stolen goods.

(And yet LIE-berals blandly assure us that ALL crime is DOWN!)

Violent crimes, however, are down, he said.

“We understand completely that people feel vulnerable and frustrated,” said Bennett, who is in charge of a squad that focuses on criminals who appear to be behind a disproportionate number of calls.

(Yes- a Toronto cop who defied the rules and collected race based statistics about 25 years ago, concluded that black gang members represent a SMALL MINORITY in Toronto but they commit the great majority of crimes! The LIE-beral response to the cops numbers was to rage at the lack of respect for the rules- AND LIE-BERALS WERE UTTERLY SILENT ABOUT THE TRUTH THAT WAS REVEALED! LIE-berals also questioned the accuracy of the numbers- with the cop simply pointing out: “I looked at the mug shots- with black guys going in one pile and other races in other piles”!)

(LIE-berals DO NOT wish to discuss the utter failure of their vote buying immigration policy that has bought us a criminal underclass infesting our not so affordable housing and that criminal class and its family members regularly vote LIE-beral in exchange for facing LIE-beral hug a thug judges operating a WEAK legal system! Our legal system offer up LOTS of chances for plea bargaining in which major crimes become small ones and minor crimes are completely FORGOTTEN!)

(AS I have said before- crime is evolving and becoming more sophisticated- and LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY IGNORING THIS REALITY!)

Sgt Mercier is encouraging people not to take on intruders themselves, but to leave it to police.

“You never know how someone may react when confronted,” he said. “We don’t want to see anyone getting hurt.”

(REALLY? WE don’t want to see people get hurt? LIE-berals demonstrate how out of touch they are with Cdns- a good many of whom think that a would be thief would BENEFIT from spending a few days in hospital after being riddled with buckshot from an angry property owner- especially since LIE-beral hug a thug judges practising their catch and release crap don’t see any reason to the PUNISH THIEVING PARASITES!!)

Hixt said he knows rural residents who have set up high-tech security systems — a move he is considering himself, following the tractor theft.

“I guess we’ll just have to factor that into our expenses,” he said.

(Yes- the need for and cost of expanded personal security in a suddenly more dangerous world is just one more dubious gift from our LIE-beral overlords!)

I haven't read any of your posts because they're too long. If you care then you'll do something about that.
It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said. ~M.T.

Offline Omni

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8563
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #425 on: November 02, 2020, 04:10:30 pm »
I haven't read any of your posts because they're too long. If you care then you'll do something about that.

Quite sure you're not alone on that.
Agree Agree x 1 View List

Offline northlandmagus

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #426 on: November 03, 2020, 09:52:53 am »
   Ah yes! The STANDARD LIE-beral reply: "the posts are too long" so LIE-berals will not read them and can thus REMAIN IGNORANT!

Here is an article illustrating much that is wrong with LIE-beral handling of native issues!

Kashechewan stands on the Hudson Bay LOWLANDS with an AVERAGE ELEVATION OF 6FT above sea level!

NOTE THAT .....................AVERAGE ELEVATION!

ANY significant CHANGE in elevation in the area is the result of HUMAN ACTIVITY!

When the govt PAID contractors to build the drinking water treatment plan and the sewage treatment plant.......and had BOTH built by white people because natives dont have the skills!

THE FIRST THING the white people did was PILE UP SAND AND GRAVEL!
The whites made HUGE GRAVEL PLATFORMS for the two plants to sit UP on - out of reach of flood waters!

This is SENSIBLE building style on a flood plain! PUT STUFF out of reach of the water - were its possible! Sand and gravel are available up there FOR FREE since the Hudson Bay Lowlands is a VAST SET of river deltas!

YES - ten thousand years worth of erosion have built up a HUGE FLOOD PLAIN! Hudson Bay Lowlands is a 1.5 MILLION SQUARE KM of sand and gravel! And many of the houses in Kash FLOOD because the natives DID NOT BOTHER building up those handy gravel piles for the houses to sit on- high and dry!

As for the suggestion to use the river to power pumps to keep the town dry?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

The town is FLOODING because the river is ICE DAMMED! Pumps DON’T WORK in a river that has no current because it is ice choked! Thus there is NO CURRENT to speak of!!

The local rivers run from the warming south into the STILL FROZEN NORTH!
And that mass of half frozen slush and chunks of ice BLOCKS the rivers! And I seriously doubt there is a pump on this planet that could cope with 50 tonnes of ice choking its impellers!

After all- Hydro One has SHIELDS in place to divert ice away from its turbines at Niagara Falls! And there is MUCH LESS ICE on the Niagara River than on rivers around Kash - Since Kash is roughly a couple of thousand Km NORTH of Niagara! Even the mighty James Bay Hydro electric generators see a Thirty percent reduction in production in winter!

And yes - I suppose you COULD build dikes and levees to try to guide the water away from town - but given the amount of ice flowing in the area - such dikes would be CHEWED FLAT in no time at all! The fiscal cost of building and maintaining such dikes each year WOULD BE HUGE! Not to mention the massive carbon foot print so much diesel equipment would produce!

And of course ANY heavy machinery needed for earth moving in Kash MUST be barged in from Newfoundland! Ocean going ships DONT GO to Kash - even though it is on the sea coast - because the water is SO SHALLOW around the Hudson`s Bay Lowlands!

It is so shallow and shoaly along that western Hudson Bay shoreline that a KAYAK will ground half a mile out from the high tide mark!

A Winnipeg man named Don Starkell tried to paddle a kayak from Moosonee through the North West Passage and found the western shore to be a mass of mud and boulders with only inches of sea water in many places - up to a MILE OUT from shore - even at high tide! Shallow draft barges are the ONLY WAY to bring in any heavy object!

This is why LIE-berals have decided it is EASIER to fly Kash residents OUT to Thunder Bay instead of doing any flood control!

The one thing I cannot answer is WHY IN HELL LIE-berals dont simply fly Kash residents OUT and LEAVE them some place where it is high and dry?

Do LIE-berals think leaving natives to live in a flood prone MESS - with the only food and fuel available being COSTLY stuff that is either flown in - or else BARGED IN from Nain or Goose Bay or some other such spot on the Labrador Coast - thousands of KM from Kash! How are LIE-berals actually “helping natives” by allowing them to live in a flooded village, with no work and nothing to do all day but drink and blame white people for ALL their problems?

Do LIE-berals really think that such treatment of natives will win LIE-berals some actual votes? Natives have a longer attention span than the average LIE-beral and we can be assured that natives WILL figure out who is behind their major problems!


Nor do LIE-berals seem to realize that giving tax payers a break with this costly  YEARLY evacuation might actually wint them some votes!

The Toronto Red Star newspaper was grudgingly FORCED to admit much of this stuff as their original coverage of the Kash "tragedy" was exposed as being so very wrong!

Kash is the ULTIMATE EXAMPLE of ALL that is wrong with LIE-beral policy with regard to natives and and the reserve system!

And the capper to all this LIE-beral crapper is that LIE-beals keep telling us they want us to STOP USING fossil fuel! And then they FLY an entire community of 2500 people plus pets and spare clothing and etc - in and out of Thunder Bay EVERY DAMNED YEAR!

Offline waldo

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 8713
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #427 on: November 03, 2020, 10:59:23 am »
Kash is the ULTIMATE EXAMPLE of ALL that is wrong with Liberal policy with regard to natives and and the reserve system!

member northlandmagus - notwithstanding your too long-winded copy/paste prowess, you are so full of shyte!

Kashechewan community residents had a relocation commitment in 2005 under the Paul Martin Liberal government. That deal was scrapped when Stephen Harper's Conservatives were elected... Harper Conservatives never returned to it!

despite your narrow-minded, skewed attempt to singularly target the current Liberal federal government, it is that government that has realized a new agreement in 2017; one intended to complete in 5-to-8 years - one that relies upon the 3 levels of government involved. Somehow you fail to recognize the role of the current Ontario Conservative Ford provincial government in terms of formalizing the transfer of Crown land to reserve land, of building significant infrastructure components to support the transition of the community, etc..

get off the pipe member northlandmagus!
Agree Agree x 1 View List

Offline Montgomery

  • The Box
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 724
  • Location: vancouver Island
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #428 on: November 11, 2020, 03:14:40 pm »
member northlandmagus - notwithstanding your too long-winded copy/paste prowess, you are so full of shyte!

Kashechewan community residents had a relocation commitment in 2005 under the Paul Martin Liberal government. That deal was scrapped when Stephen Harper's Conservatives were elected... Harper Conservatives never returned to it!

despite your narrow-minded, skewed attempt to singularly target the current Liberal federal government, it is that government that has realized a new agreement in 2017; one intended to complete in 5-to-8 years - one that relies upon the 3 levels of government involved. Somehow you fail to recognize the role of the current Ontario Conservative Ford provincial government in terms of formalizing the transfer of Crown land to reserve land, of building significant infrastructure components to support the transition of the community, etc..

get off the pipe member northlandmagus!

With a bit of luck he's decided to show his tail. He was never going to condense it down a readble size in his own words. Still, there's always hope that some rightwing extremist will come along who can hold some ground on their batshit crazed agenda?
It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said. ~M.T.
Dumb Dumb x 1 View List

Offline Squidward von Squidderson

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5630
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #429 on: November 11, 2020, 06:15:03 pm »
Still, there's always hope that some rightwing extremist will come along who can hold some ground on their batshit crazed agenda?

What do you mean?
Dumb Dumb x 1 View List

Offline Montgomery

  • The Box
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 724
  • Location: vancouver Island
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #430 on: November 12, 2020, 11:52:50 am »
What do you mean?

Are you ready to change your attitude so that I can feel that it's worth replying to your questions?


If so then I'll say that we need a Conservative with real commitment on this board, and then be able to elaborate further.
It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said. ~M.T.

Offline Squidward von Squidderson

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5630
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #431 on: November 12, 2020, 12:03:22 pm »
Are you ready to change your attitude so that I can feel that it's worth replying to your questions?


If so then I'll say that we need a Conservative with real commitment on this board, and then be able to elaborate further.

What a dumb ****.
Winner Winner x 1 Dumb Dumb x 1 View List

Offline Ginxa22

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 36
  • we view the world thru different lenses
  • Location: Thunder Bay
    • AIC| An Informal Cornr
Re: BC v Wet'suet'en
« Reply #432 on: January 11, 2022, 10:58:38 pm »
I agree.  If a tribe/band doesn't sign off on it and protests, ok i support that.  But if it does sign off on it and the majority agree with the decision and some people from the minority protest then they have a much weaker case.  These protestors don't represent all of the natives or their bands.
what minority in Canada especially the Indigenous - have truly had their rights respected?
'personal development can start with learning to grow your Knowledge from Ordinary, to Extraordinary'