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Offline the_squid

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YVR shooting
« on: May 10, 2021, 05:40:58 pm »
The Indo-Canadian gangs have been shooting each other up at an alarming rate lately on the Lower Mainland.  The latest one was at the Vancouver International Airport in front of several witnesses, in broad daylight outside a relatively busy terminal.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/burnaby-shooting-ihit-update-1.6020644

The police were shot at.  The criminals took off in a Honda Pilot, which the police failed in their attempts to stop, or even to follow.  They got away clean.  They found the vehicle several hours later burnt up.

What stellar police work.[/sarcasm]

It makes me realize the severe lack of security that is at our biggest airport where someone can shoot the place up and get virtually no resistance from the cops on site.  And the cops responding failed to come close to capturing them.   Iím pretty sure Vancouver has a police helicopter somewhere?  Maybe at YVR???


https://goo.gl/maps/5CGdMTsjjXVPxYYf7

There are very few ways in and out of Sea Island where YVR is located. 

Extremely pathetic law enforcement response.

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Offline wilber

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Re: YVR shooting
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2021, 10:24:50 pm »
Sort of agree but any time there is an innocent bystander hurt in a police chase, the police wind up in ****. They really can't chase anyone now, about all they can do is try and lay spike belts and hope perps run over them. It seems crazy after someone has been shot and killed but that is what we have come too.
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Re: YVR shooting
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2021, 10:54:47 pm »
It looks pretty cool on TV shows, but IRL when I see American police having shootouts in busy areas I'm aghast. 

RCMP were chasing the vehicle when they were shot at.  I don't know, I'm happy they didn't fire back and endanger people by continuing the chase.

Skip the first 9 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQECxTkb0Wg

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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2021, 10:59:11 pm »
On another note, these shootings are getting very troublesome.  That's 10 in the last 3 weeks.  One of the ones that really hit close to home (literally) was Town Centre Park in the basketball court which sits right beside a busy playground and skate park.  It's my daughter's favourite park and we used to go there a few times a week.  Vancouver is getting out of control with the gang violence.
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2021, 12:03:18 am »
This is clearly a mistake, since Canada's government has taken Tough Action On Gun Violence tm.

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2021, 02:28:13 am »
This is clearly a mistake, since Canada's government has taken Tough Action On Gun Violence tm.

member kimmy, as the resident gunner here are you able to separate your disdain for recent federal gun control measures from BC's government intended legislation targeting gang & drug violence, vis-a-vis the Firearm Violence Prevention Act, SBC 2021?

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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2021, 08:06:20 am »
This is clearly a mistake, since Canada's government has taken Tough Action On Gun Violence tm.

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Re: YVR shooting
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2021, 12:01:03 am »
member kimmy, as the resident gunner here are you able to separate your disdain for recent federal gun control measures from BC's government intended legislation targeting gang & drug violence, vis-a-vis the Firearm Violence Prevention Act, SBC 2021?

I have only glanced over the BC law, but it looks like a good effort.  Rather than more harassment of law abiding gun owners, they're targeting illegal transport and gang members. It seems like BC Public Safety Minister Farnsworth put some genuine thought into this, unlike his not-very-smart Federal counterparts.

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2021, 12:07:53 pm »
Rather than more harassment of law abiding gun owners... not-very-smart Federal counterparts.

certainly, gunners (like you) aren't in favour of any additional gun control measures - of course! Why would any responsible gun owner have a concern with a buyback program for all military-style assault rifles legally purchased in Canada... a program intended to offer fair market prices for owners; a program providing more resources for law enforcement to administer the program? Why would any responsible gun owner have a concern with the following?


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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2021, 01:06:20 pm »
God damn right. You wanna own a deadly device you stfu and jumo thru the hoops to prove you are competent to have such a thing. Otherwise, bugger off.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2021, 07:09:30 pm »
Meanwhile, Trudeau gets rid of mandatory minimums for multiple firearms offences. What a tough guy. How can anyone take him seriously on this folder.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2021, 08:45:38 pm »
Meanwhile, Trudeau gets rid of mandatory minimums for multiple firearms offences. What a tough guy. How can anyone take him seriously on this folder.

are you getting ahead of your fake outrage... has Bill C-22 received Royal Assent? Well, has it?

in any case, no one can be as tough as your boy Harper - the guy responsible for tripling the number of offences subject to mandatory minimums! But c'mon, you're either purposely misinforming... or you have little grasp/understanding of what's actually in the bill. In keeping with your use of the 'tough guy' labeling, now do the Supreme Court: Top court strikes down mandatory minimums for gun crimes --- High court rules 6-3 that Harper government's gun sentencing is unconstitutional... is that tough? Of course lower courts have done the same.

here, chew on this infographic - yes?


 

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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2021, 10:54:07 pm »
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To address the over-incarceration rate of Indigenous peoples, as well as Black and marginalized Canadians, MMPs for the following offences would be repealed:

Using a firearm or imitation firearm in commission of offence (two separate offences)
Paragraphs 85(3)(a) and (b): MMPs of 1 year (first offence) and 3 years (second and subsequent offence)
Possession of firearm or weapon knowing its possession is unauthorized (two separate offences)
Paragraphs 92(3)(b) and (c): MMP of 1 year (second offence) and 2 years less a day (third and subsequent offence)
Possession of prohibited or restricted firearm with ammunition
Paragraphs 95(2)(i) and (ii): MMPs of 3 years (first offence) and 5 years (second and subsequent offence)
Possession of weapon obtained by commission of offence
Paragraph 96(2)(a): MMP of 1 year
Weapons trafficking (excluding firearms and ammunition)

I guess black, indigenous and otherwise "marginalized" gang bangers are less lethal than the average gang banger.
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2021, 11:52:31 pm »
I guess black, indigenous and otherwise "marginalized" gang bangers are less lethal than the average gang banger.

so says wilberHang'EmHigh! Stats show there is most certainly a disproportionate application of ManditoryMinimumPenalties (MMP)... impacting upon the indigenous, blacks & members of marginalized communities - those you summarily dismiss as gang bangers. Of course, some of those MMP offences you've quoted have already been struck down by the courts. By the by, please step up to show reference(s) that MMP has resulted in crime reduction.

I'm quite sure you haven't any understanding that the somewhat 'companion' Bill C-21 increased maximum penalties for firearms offences related to gun smuggling and trafficking.

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Repealing certain MMPs will help ensure that a person found guilty of an offence is sentenced appropriately.

Sentencing judges must still impose a sentence that is proportionate to the degree of responsibility of the offender and the seriousness of the offence, taking into account all aggravating and mitigating factors. This includes the risk to public safety. It also includes the individual and their experience with systemic racism.

Repealing MMPs provides sentencing judges with the flexibility to impose just punishments, including terms of imprisonment that are lower or higher than the MMPs that would be repealed.

Quote from: Justice Minister David Lametti
We are turning the page on a failed Conservative criminal justice policy. It was an approach that did not make our communities safer. It did not deter criminals. It did not make the justice system more effective or more fair. Its singular accomplishment has been to incarcerate too many Indigenous people, too many Black people and too many marginalized Canadians.

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Re: YVR shooting
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2021, 09:13:06 am »
So getting shot by a black, indigenous or otherwise disadvantaged gang banger is less odious than other gang bangers. Good to know.

Please show references where Liberal gun laws have resulted in crime reduction.
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