1. Your words reveal your ideaology. 'Fundamental justice' ... all of it comes at a cost. Do you want 100% 'justice' ? The costs are prohibitive. This is the honour system, albeit in an extreme version.
What's my ideology? That I believe it is unjust and unethical for healthy working people to pay for the incomes of others who simply don't want to work? If so, you also reveal your ideology by disagreeing with me.
2. Why don't we have 100% audits ? It is about what the system can bear, including politically.
Yes there are some cost factors obviously. Even now with the programs we don't have 100% audits. But there should be some to give incentive for the dishonest to be honest.
The system can't bear potentially millions of potential workers in Canada not working while the rest pay for it. It's a ridiculous policy proposal. So ridiculous that it's a non-starter for anyone competent at governing. The Wynne government put in a pilot project, we know full well that gov was incompetent & living in fantasy land. It is truly one of the worst policy ideas I've ever heard. It would very likely cause work shortages and inflation, it's ridiculous.
4. It's not an either/or. Health costs are reduced by increased UBI. But also I didn't say I support UBI - I'm just discussing it. I DO think that old ideas of work and fairness need to die in order for us to deal with 'the end of work'. And I am also sensing an increasing appetite for wholesale economic review and restructuring, ie. flat taxes, UBI, and so on.
What is the evidence health costs are reduced by UBI? How do you know people just won't get fatter laying around more, like they have during COVID? Everyone poor who doesn't make a basic amount of money to live is already entitled to welfare, and people who lose their job are entitled to EI, and the elderly are entitled to OAS/GIS etc. If you want to reform those programs a bit ok that's fair. If you want to pay some well-off person's kid to lay around all summer because they don't want to work, no I don't agree. I have no issue reforming our systems to fill any gaps for those truly in need. There's a way to reach them while not rewarding and incentivizing and subsidizing low or zero productivity.
If "the end of work" occurs, which it hasn't yet, then we can deal with that then. As I said, if you honestly can't find a job yes I agree you should have a basic income. But if you don't even want to honestly look then why would I subsidize your long-term vacation by working my butt off to pay for it? This is literally stealing the fruits of my labour from me and giving it to someone else without my consent and without need or reasonable justification. It is unjust and unethical.
Also, yes you do support UBI, you said "more people agree with me". Please stop pretending you're a neutral arbiter on all issues, this is obviously not true. It's ok you have taken a position. What do you fear by getting off the fence? A thesis means taking a position.