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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: UBI - are you Aye or Nay?
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2022, 01:36:10 pm »
The UBI case is that removing checks pays for itself in terms of reduced government services.

The checks are necessary to ensure fundamental fairness/justice in our society.

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Yeah, so it IS a moral thing.  If somebody gets free $ from the government what do you care really ?

Calling someone a mooch to me says you feel like people must work even if there is no work to be done.

I don't know of a government policy that isn't based on morality.  I care because it would harm our economy to have people doing nothing.  I care because why would you or I want to work and then have the government take our hard-earned money and give it to others with no net benefits to society (again, GDP loss) and a lot of detriment to those subsidizing them (taxpayers), not to mention detriment to all those people waiting for MRI's and longterm spaces etc where that funding isn't going because someone wants to spend their days making bad flower paintings on their porch.  Can you please answer why you would you give taxpayer money to people who just don't want to work instead of to healthcare, education etc?

If there is no work available I have no issue giving people a livable income, but that isn't UBI that's basically EI.  You didn't listen to much of what I said.  If you're a healthy adult of working age and you don't work and live off the income of others you're a mooch and a dependent, a child essentially.  It's no different than a 35 year old unemployed person living with their parents and paying no room and board.  Mooch, social leech, call it what you will.  These people are not pulling their weight in society.  They are a net drag on the economy for no good reason.  People work to eat and you shouldn't expect someone else to pay your way for you. An adult shouldn't be treated like an 10 year old.

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Would you take any work assigned to you if you couldn't find a job and had to take government money ?

If I had the choice i'd probably take the government money, and so would most people, which is exactly why you need program requirements to prevent this.
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