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« Reply #60 on: September 07, 2018, 04:49:45 pm »
You mean like Rent Control, Pensions, middle class income, ...

I didn't say it's impossible.  People were upset about pensions.  Veterans are upset that the Trudeau gov changed their benefits around and reduced payments.  Middle class income isn't regulated by the gov, unless they ban manufacturing job exports etc.
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« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2018, 04:56:15 pm »
https://twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/1036918061134213120?s=19

The Star cites service industry employment rate increase...

I think we'll know more about the minimum wage effects after the end of the year so we can compare this year to previous years.  It might even take a few years to see the effects.  I'm interested to see.

One of the things I fear the effects of making it more expensive for small businesses to start up and also operate.  It will make it even harder for them to compete with big corporations who can absorb the wage costs easier, and then big corps will have even more of a stranglehold on the economy.
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« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2018, 10:16:31 pm »
I dunno. 

The service industry seems to be changing quite a bit.  I am paying $6 for a coffee and somebody is making that money.  Those barristas are too happy to be making $12/hr.

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« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2018, 10:16:51 pm »
And employment numbers tanked today so ... so much for my rosy theory.

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« Reply #64 on: November 15, 2018, 06:18:31 am »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/patrick-brown-new-tell-all-book-1.4904663

Patrick Brown says he was the subject of a takedown, also says there are sexual misconduct allegations against Vic Fidelli ?

When is this storyline going to end ?

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« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2020, 08:39:45 pm »
This crisis has brought out the best in Doug Ford, I must say.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ontario-to-raise-pay-of-front-line-coronavirus-workers-by-4-an-hour/

He has dropped the near-conspiracy, populist right-wing nonsense....   He’s led Ontario through this in a very pragmatic, science-backed way.  Not what I would have expected.

Now a pay raise for front line workers.

And calling right-wing protesters  reckless and a bunch of yahoos. 

Hopefully he realizes his cuts prior to this hasn’t helped.

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« Reply #66 on: April 25, 2020, 09:26:59 pm »
Yeah he won a lot of respect for saying that.

Scheer couldn't tell them to get lost, but Doug Ford told the yahoos to get stuffed.

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« Reply #67 on: May 01, 2020, 04:33:22 pm »
This crisis has brought out the best in Doug Ford, I must say.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ontario-to-raise-pay-of-front-line-coronavirus-workers-by-4-an-hour/

He has dropped the near-conspiracy, populist right-wing nonsense....   He’s led Ontario through this in a very pragmatic, science-backed way.  Not what I would have expected.

Now a pay raise for front line workers.

And calling right-wing protesters  reckless and a bunch of yahoos. 

Hopefully he realizes his cuts prior to this hasn’t helped.
Unfortunately cuts are necessary.  The previous governments 15 years of reckless and irresponsible fiscal policy have made Ontario the most indebted non-country in the entire world.  Ontario spends tens of billions of dollars each year on just paying interest on its debt thanks to the previous Liberal governments. 
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« Reply #68 on: May 11, 2020, 02:20:40 pm »
Same old Doug Ford it seems...  still as stupid as ever.   He manages to parrot health officials and advise people correctly, but too dumb to do so on a personal level.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5564756

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Premier Doug Ford appears to have broken COVID-19 physical distancing measures prescribed by Ontario's public health officials, saying his two daughters who live in different households visited his home over Mother's Day weekend.

Speaking to reporters at his daily briefing Monday, Ford said his family gathering was limited to six people, "direct family" only, with none of his daughters' husbands or boyfriends present.
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« Reply #69 on: May 11, 2020, 03:08:51 pm »
Same old Doug Ford it seems...  still as stupid as ever.   He manages to parrot health officials and advise people correctly, but too dumb to do so on a personal level.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5564756

Doug got together with fam this weekend, Trudeau got together with fam on Easter.  I guess it's do as I say, not as I do for our politicians.  Bunch of entitled dolts.  Real leadership guys.
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« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2020, 04:16:24 pm »
          Doug Ford is the perfect leader for our insane times! He is thick skinned and willing to throw sh+t back at his selfish civil service union HOG detractors!           

 It is a dark time to be a Lie-beral in Canada. The Lie-beral brand is now associated with all manner of trickery and deceit, seasoned with a nice helping of incompetence-as they handle money BADLY and LIE poorly about it! Lie-berals are now grasping desperately at straws in a futile effort to save themselves from political oblivion  and the latest `straw` is a pathetic attempt to `prove` that being Conservative is a mental disorder! The Lie-beral argument starts (as most of them do) with one fact and then flies off into cuckoo land with half truths, evasions of reality and distortions of logic.

The Lie-beral points out that Conservatives apparently have a larger `fear centre` in their brains than Lie-berals do.....so far, its possible. Then the Lie-beral tries to suggest this is a bad thing. As if being better at recognizing threats and dangers and therefore being better at long term planning to avoid trouble as a consequence is a fault!

One has only to look at Ontari-owe premier McWynnty-known to some as The Great Whore because she has sold herself, her party and OUR FUTURE to the civil service Hogs of Working Family Coalition.

For years, Lie-berals have fed the Working Family Hogs a steady diet of rich gravy in order to BUY their votes at election time and thus keep Lie-berals in power. But feeding the Hogs is a dangerous game-much like feeding Grizzly Bears in Banff.....oh yes, you get a great photo op if you handle it right......but you get MAULED if you do it wrong!

When the food runs out the danger starts.....you are just as likely to get mauled by angry bears as by angry Hogs-both of whom had quickly come to the notion that YOUR food was OWED to them as an entitlement!

This is why LIE-berals no longer rule Ontari-owe and why Our idiot Boy is in such trouble in Ottawa as well! The gravy is GONE.....the amount of red ink flowing across all LIE-beral govt books is now so great that it is even scaring Lie-berals in spite of their stunted little brain fear centres and limited ability to spot threats approaching! Poor little Wynne-bag -with her stunted little brain she never saw the Hog danger approaching!

Even worse, for years, Lie-berals closed their eyes to the gross conflict of interest engaged in by Working Family Hogs-the Hogs spent HUGE sums of money on election advertising supporting Lie-berals in defiance of fair election funding rules while Lie-berals looked the other way; secure in the knowledge that civil service Working Family was doing the dirty work-not Lie-berals and knowing that anybody who complained would be seeking help from Election Canada Hogs who also  support Lie-berals!!!!!

If corporate CEO`s had intervened in an election in such a way the Hogs and Lie-berals would have screamed for criminal charges and jail time but since Lie-berals and Hogs were benefitting there was no harm nor any foul.....just too bad for Conservative victims.....

But that was then and this is now.....the Gravy is gone and the Hogs are HUNGRY! They are getting into Grizzly BEAR mode and now looking to maul the Lie-berals for that sudden lack of gravy! The Hogs are so angry that Wynne-bagre is now changing election law to prevent the Hogs from picking on HER in the next election....she is afraid that Hogs will give their support to NDP candidates in future and that the hopes of Justin Trudope and his federal Lie-berals will be ruined next October thanks to Ontari-owe Lie-beral failure to recognize impending threats!

And of course Ontari-owe Hog teachers (as well as all other Working Family Hogs) are planning apply massive pressure and propaganda next fall to force government to give them more gravy.....just as Justin Trudope and his gang try to get re-elected.                     

Perhaos we should pity poor Justin Trudope. In his happy `what, me worry?` Lie-beral Ignorance, he assumed that he could become a great leader courtesy of nice hair, a polite manner, and some bland political platitudes recycled from speeches his father gave 30 years ago!

Sadly, there are things he overlooked. Things such as He doesn’t have any more gravy to hand out to Hogs either and is looking at the same THREATENING Hog switch to NDP!

Or what about the Russian Bear grabbing chunks of Ukraine and bullying much of Europe with Putin cast as a latter day Hitler.  And the Isis threat....just far away religious weirdos? Both  Russians and mad dog Muslims were surely comfortably far off and no threat to a Lie-beral so why worry about them? So it seemed to the brain deficient un-fearful Lie-berals! But the world IS worried and it would damage Canadian foreign affairs  not to be on side with our allies!
So poor stupid Justin has been bumbling in every political arean he enters!

He has pissed off our allies by taking the fighter jets home from Syria!
Has pissed off our Yankee allies by neglecting our NATO commitments!!

Has pissed of the Yankees by being a complete imbecile over all manner of immigration issues- with Yankees afraid that Canada will become a terrorist haven- as it has ALREADY become a haven for money launderers and organized crime thank to oblivious and “what, me worry” LIE-berals!
Has substantially damaged our economy with his carbon crap and trade scam and by his pipeline antics! The country burns while idiot Boy blandly smiles!
 
And we should discuss home gown Muslim terror here! Our idiot Boy has told us that he does not read newspapers so has anybody dared tell ghim the bad news- about the Muslim attack in Edmonton?
About the Muslim attack on Danforth Ave?
About radical Isis bomb maker AARON Driver who blew himself as anti terror cops closed in?

The psychiatry report on the amygdala/fear centre in the human brain casts serious doubt regarding the ability of Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals to recognize danger till the last moment!

How shocked he must have been to hear of a murderous gunman running loose on Parliament Hill? Or the two Muslim clowns trying to derail a Via passenger train in Toronto with `help` from an FBI agent? How could he have failed to understand and appreciate the threat?

What a slap in the face to Lie-berals everywhere who have been so friendly to all newcomers to Canada-why-the father of Omar Khadr was a CONVICTED TERRORIST Bomber languishing in an Italian jail when Lie-beral Jean Chretien did a deal with the Italians and INVITED the odious Khadrs to come to Canada! And our fat head Chretien NEVER SAW the threat that inviting a CONVICTED Muslim bomb maker might one day make for Canada and LIE-berals!

And....WHY wont the economy balance itself poor Justin wonders-he has always had money and everybody has bills to pay so what is the problem? ? And why do people expect HIM to solve THEIR  problems? Poor Justin does not see the harmful, job killing effect of high taxes and HUGE national debts!

Instead of being acclaimed as a great leader,  poor Justin has found himself dumped into a filthy political swamp fighting desperately to keep his head above water and never saw THAT coming either!

Bad enough that poor Justin might lose the 2019 election to Andrew Sheer .....but how much WORSE it must be to think of losing to NDP/Jagmeet Singh?

After all, Lie-berals think of NDP members as people who have their hearts in a good place but they lack the low guile and cunning to be PROPER Lie-beral! Poor Justin never saw the threat posed by Singh either!

And the HISTORIC, absolute ultimate Lie-beral `oopsie` didn’t see that coming moment- hit Lie-beral prime minister Mackenzie King over the head.

In 1936 King traveled to Germany during the Munich Olympics and actually met and talked one on one with Adolf Hitler.

King came back to Canada and explained that Hitler was “basically a good  man, rather dour but giving the German people some much needed hope and discipline”!

King went on to condemn that English chap-Winston Churchill- “as a “rabble rouser and a warmonger”!

Oopsie.....Lie-berals are just not cut out for the deep thinking and long term planning needed in our complex modern government! They simply don’t see threats clearly enough-because their brains are not fully developed!   

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Re: Doug Ford Helps the Poor
« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2020, 10:36:14 pm »
I think we'll know more about the minimum wage effects after the end of the year so we can compare this year to previous years.  It might even take a few years to see the effects.  I'm interested to see.

One of the things I fear the effects of making it more expensive for small businesses to start up and also operate.  It will make it even harder for them to compete with big corporations who can absorb the wage costs easier, and then big corps will have even more of a stranglehold on the economy.

How interesting to stumble on this post and find that you're opposed to a minimum wage too. Have you changed your mind since you wrote that?

Why is it that you're opposed to a minimum wage? Isn't it reasonable to say that any business that can't pay a decent minimum wage isn't a viable business?
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« Reply #73 on: November 02, 2020, 01:06:09 pm »
    For one thing - Ford WILL NOT encourage Toronto Transit Commission to waste even more cash on electric TOY vehicles! Nor will Ford waste govt revenue on subsidies for electric TOY cars!           

For those who think that a LIE-beral created electric car business might somehow be good for us- I offer up this older article as rebuttal. With some comments of my own in brackets):

TTC hybrid bus batteries losing their power

Globe and Mail/ Jeff Gray Toronto City Hall Reporter/ Published May 16, 2008
Updated March 27, 2017

The box-like batteries on top of the Toronto Transit Commission's brand new and premium-priced hybrid electric-diesel buses are lasting only half as long as their manufacturer promised.

(So there is the first LIE- that electric vehicles will be reliable!)

They were supposed to last five years, but about a third of the lead-acid battery cells in use in the current fleet of 275 hybrids - which started arriving in 2006 - have already worn out, Gary Webster, the TTC's chief general manager, said in an interview.

(And why use lead acid batteries instead of lithium? Lets guess and suggest that lead-acid will not hold as large a charge as lithium but it will hold it longer- such as when a device is only intermittently used- and lead-acid is probably more resistant to cold than lithium! WE know - for instance that a lithium battery suffers major loss of power at temperatures below 10 celcius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! )

The battery failures come on top of TTC testing that has shown the buses are producing just half the expected fuel savings, using just 10 per cent instead of 20 to 30 per cent less diesel than a conventional bus, although TTC officials expect this number to improve.

(So there is there next LIE! The usual extravagant promises of advertisers that LIE-berals want us to swallow- along with the cost over runs!)

Still, Mr. Webster defends the decision to buy the Orion VII hybrids - which cost $734,000, compared with $500,000 for a conventional bus. He says the TTC and the manufacturer, Daimler Buses North America, are trying to sort out the battery problem, which is covered by the warranty and not costing the TTC money.

(OH! TYPICAL LIE-beral value for money- a fifty percent higher price and drastically reduced performance- what a BARGAIN! And sadly it’s a better deal than electric cars which cost TWICE as much as gas cars!)

"We think the hybrid bus is a good bus. That's the bottom line for us. It's got some issues, absolutely," Mr. Webster said. "... We think we're going to address these issues."

(And others think Webster is dreaming in technicolour about fixing a mess created by inadequate technology being asked to go beyond its natural capacity!)

By year's end, the TTC will have 564 hybrid buses - making up about a third of its bus fleet - with much of the cost of buying them covered by the federal and provincial governments in funding that mandated buses using alternative fuels. Within five years, close to half of the TTC's fleet is scheduled to have hybrid engines.

(AS I have said before- THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE an electric vehicle “industry” is due to LIE-beral bribery of that business! Every time LIE-berals meddle in business for political reasons- huge bills and public failure follow!)

But Adam Giambrone, the city councillor who chairs the TTC, said the battery problems mean the jury is still out on whether the buses were a good investment: "We're still formulating our opinion on the hybrids."

(The jury is “still out” regarding the busses says Giambrone? CLEARLY ONLY LIE-berals are on that jury! Tax payers HAVE decided already! Giambrone later got fired as TTC chair and the David Miller govt that supported him was defeated in a subsequent election!)

He said the hybrid engine could be a "transitional technology" and that down the road, electric buses could come onto the market, or the TTC could, on busier routes, even return to using trolley buses - powered by overhead wires like streetcars - which it abandoned in the 1990s.

(Apparently “transitional technology ” is LIE-beral speak meaning “ we will go ahead with this mess regardless of public disgust and we will ignore public opinion for selfish political reasons!)

Mr. Webster said yesterday that New York has had some similar problems with its fleet of Orion VII hybrids.

(In other words- TTC brass KNEW there would be trouble with the vehicles due to reports from New York City- and yet they chose to forge ahead anyway- buying vehicles that cost FIFTY PERCENT MORE than older vehicles and with the new vehicles seriously lacking in mechanical reliability! This is political meddling on a fantastic and utterly disgraceful scale! The ONLY defense LIE-berals offer us is this: “don’t worry- we are dreaming of a brighter future in which we MAY do better in some future time”!)   

But Jake Keyes, a spokesman for Daimler, which runs the former Orion Bus Industries plant in Mississauga where the buses are partly manufactured, said the battery problem was specific to Toronto's buses and has not occurred with its other hybrid buses running in New York and San Francisco.

(The battery problem is unique to Toronto? How so? Did TTC ask for technical changes? Or did Daimler make changes on its own to reduce the price to make the busses more appealing for the Toronto market- did they make battery changes that made unique trouble for Toronto busses? Sounds like public relations advertising and B.S. artists are hard at work to protect LIE-berals and electric vehicle image  here!)

The company's newer models include a different, lithium-ion battery that Mr. Keyes said lasts longer, but Mr. Webster said the TTC is not convinced the new battery will fix its problem.

"... We've said to them, 'Happy to consider it, but you've got to prove to us these things actually function,' " he said.

(Proof is very definitely needed at this time! Especially as lithium batteries likely cost more than lead-acid? But that is a hallmark of “emerging” technology- up selling the dis-satisfied customer with new and improved promises until either the customer gives up and shops elsewhere or the company producing the technology goes bankrupt!) 

(And here it is ten years on since the first battery busses went into operation- anybody curious how many are still on the road? LIE-berals do not say! And yet we STILL operate electric street cars that are over 50 years old!)

It is common for transit agencies to run into kinks with new vehicles, and the TTC has had problems before, including with vehicles running on compressed natural gas that it bought from Orion Bus Industries in the 1990s.

It has had to scrap 50 of those buses and convert another 50 to diesel, after engine problems, potentially leaky gas tanks and other complaints.

(TTC brass have dealt with and been RIPPED OFF by Orion in the past? AND still TTC bought the latest B.S? Just how bankrupt is Toronto that they would close their eyes and blindly forge ahead secure in the knowledge that it is ONLY federal transfer funding they are WASTING on shaky Orion promises?)

The TTC blames its hybrid buses' fuel-economy problems on the fact that they are being used more on suburban high-speed routes, where hybrid engines are less efficient.

(And NOBODY thought to ASK if suburban high speed routes were suitable for these delicate electric buses with their myriad mechanical shortcomings?) 

Once more of the buses are running on stop-and-go congested routes downtown, Mr. Webster says, their fuel economy numbers should go up as the bus can rely more on the electric power it creates with its regenerative braking system.

(IN other words Rube Goldberg just took over management of the faulty and over delicate machinery! HAHAHAHA!!! Busses are supposed to go where the passengers are- NOT where its handy for limited technology to operate! But this IS the LIE-beral version of reality- in socialist eyes it’s the stupid passengers who line up in wrong places that are behind the bus failures! It is NOT the fault of weak and limited technology- so LIE-berals will INSIST!)

The fuel-economy problems, which likely cost the TTC $1.3-million this year, are a small part of what is expected to be a massive rise in diesel costs as a fixed-price contract for fuel runs out at the end of this year.

The TTC estimates that its fuel bill could go to $97-million next year from $65-million this year, and Mr. Webster has said the transit agency may even consider a "fuel surcharge" for riders.

(IN other words TTC took a desperate gamble- betting on the battery buses with their KNOWN limitations in hope that the busses would perform better in Toronto than in New York! This is the usual LIE-beral dilemma- the price of fuel is rising and public tolerance for socialist spendaholics is fading- while socialist politicians NEED more gravy for their Hog allies! So they ganlbed and bought huegly expensive busses in desperate hope that they could save some fuel costs and thus have gravy to pass on to Hogs!)

(And there is ALL of LIE-beral policy and planning in a nutshell- just as self proclaimed and staunch LIE-beral supporter Peter Newman said in his book “When The Gods Changed” that details LIE-beral political fortunes after the Chretien era! LIE-beral pal Newman told us the modern LIE-beral party had no significant values, no real policy, no guiding pricniples or morals- all they now have is a huge lust for power and a conviction they are entitled to be the ruling power! This is why LIE-berals can shrug off the costs of all manner of financial disasters they have thrown on us! LIE-berals are convinced they  ARE ENTITLED to over rule us whenever they feel like it! And anybody who disagrees is some sort of racist! Based on current evidence the future will NOT be battery powered!)   

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« Reply #74 on: November 02, 2020, 03:53:23 pm »
Posts are too long and too fuckin’ stupid for anyone to bother reading. 
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