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« Reply #645 on: April 17, 2018, 01:09:56 pm »
To show how mad they are for not selling more oil, they are going to sell even less oil!

Genius.   ???

Well the BC government is intent on making sure they can't sell more oil. Alberta will ship bitumen only while the BC economy grinds itself into the ground in short order due to fuel shortages and having to ship what they can get by rail and truck with the resulting increase in cost and environmental risk. In short, we find out who needs who more and it won't take very long.
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« Reply #646 on: April 17, 2018, 01:25:01 pm »
Well the BC government is intent on making sure they can't sell more oil. Alberta will ship bitumen only while the BC economy grinds itself into the ground in short order due to fuel shortages and having to ship what they can get by rail and truck with the resulting increase in cost and environmental risk. In short, we find out who needs who more and it won't take very long.

Yeah but now BC is threatening to sue Alberta. 

If the end goal is to keep KM reassured of Canada being a stable player, you really don't see how a one-sided ****-show is better than a two-sided **** show?

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« Reply #647 on: April 17, 2018, 01:41:34 pm »
Yeah but now BC is threatening to sue Alberta. 

If the end goal is to keep KM reassured of Canada being a stable player, you really don't see how a one-sided ****-show is better than a two-sided **** show?

If you are going to start a **** show, don't complain if others oblige you.
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« Reply #648 on: April 17, 2018, 01:45:16 pm »
If you are going to start a **** show, don't complain if others oblige you.


If it facilitates in keeping the air uncertain, it's definitely in Horgan's interest.

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« Reply #649 on: April 17, 2018, 01:48:46 pm »

If it facilitates in keeping the air uncertain, it's definitely in BC's interest.

It is BC that is keeping the air uncertain, that is why KM is threatening to walk away. This is in no ones interest, least of all BC's. When investors look at this, who do you think they will believe is the least risky place to invest, BC or Alberta?
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« Reply #650 on: April 17, 2018, 02:01:46 pm »
It is BC that is keeping the air uncertain, that is why KM is threatening to walk away. This is in no ones interest, least of all BC's. When investors look at this, who do you think they will believe is the least risky place to invest, BC or Alberta?

There's always Keystone.  Trump loves pipelines.

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« Reply #651 on: April 17, 2018, 02:03:28 pm »
It's ok to kill Energy East because Ontario and Quebec have more voters, but BC shouldn't have the same right?

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« Reply #652 on: April 17, 2018, 02:05:36 pm »
There's always Keystone.  Trump loves pipelines.

Same problem, it goes to the US which means Alberta has to sell at a discount.

Saskatchewan to.

http://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/saskatchewan-premier-says-his-province-will-also-table-oil-ban-bill
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« Reply #653 on: April 17, 2018, 02:06:46 pm »
It's ok to kill Energy East because Ontario and Quebec have more voters, but BC shouldn't have the same right?

Politics. No, it isn't OK, they should both be approved.
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« Reply #654 on: April 17, 2018, 02:11:48 pm »
Politics. No, it isn't OK, they should both be approved.

Yeah but one didn't!  And it just happened to be the only with the two most populous provinces. 

Either approve both or give BC the same courtesy as you do the mass voting blocs of Quebec and Ontario.

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« Reply #655 on: April 17, 2018, 02:15:05 pm »
Same problem, it goes to the US which means Alberta has to sell at a discount.

Saskatchewan to.

http://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/saskatchewan-premier-says-his-province-will-also-table-oil-ban-bill

I'm aware.  That was my point.  If both coasts in Canada and previously Obama are objecting to something, maybe it's time for a little self-reflection for Alberta.

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« Reply #656 on: April 17, 2018, 02:45:45 pm »
I'm aware.  That was my point.  If both coasts in Canada and previously Obama are objecting to something, maybe it's time for a little self-reflection for Alberta.

Again, you presume to speak for everyone in this province. A provincial government elected by the people of this province approved this pipeline and the party of the present premier does not constitute a majority.

It is not both coasts. Atlantic Canada is pissed that Energy East was cancelled.
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« Reply #657 on: April 17, 2018, 02:48:33 pm »
Again, you presume to speak for everyone in this province. A provincial government elected by the people of this province approved this pipeline and the party of the present premier does not constitute a majority.

I'm sure there were people in Ontario and Quebec who also didn't object, what's your point?

At the end of the day, the more populous provinces didn't get a pipeline rammed through them.

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« Reply #658 on: April 17, 2018, 02:52:24 pm »
I'm sure there were people in Ontario and Quebec who also didn't object, what's your point?

At the end of the day, the more populous provinces didn't get a pipeline rammed through them.

The people of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia are the total opposite of nimby BC when it comes to exporting the products of other province

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Nova Scotia Liberal Premier Stephen McNeil also weighed in.
“I think anytime you bring a resource across the country and in the process share it with Canadians, but also provide another export market, I've said this all along, when you look at commodities that we have, the more customers we have for those commodities, it’s better for the price, which in turn comes back to people of the province,” said McNeil.
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« Reply #659 on: April 17, 2018, 02:56:45 pm »
The people of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia are the total opposite of nimby BC when it comes to exporting the products of other province

Sure, but I was talking about Quebec and Ontario.  You said both pipelines should have been approved and I said sure, or by the same logic both should be denied.

Not fair to force one province and not the others, who just happen to be huge voting blocs.