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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #615 on: April 16, 2018, 04:30:58 pm »
I think the point is, concern for the environment can be very selective.

Mr Hanky is not promoting more poo into the ocean....    he’s the mascot to protest against pumping raw sewage.  In other words, there are plenty of protests and opposition to pumping raw sewage.   If you didn’t know that, and you live in BC, then you’ve been living under a rock maybe....?
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« Reply #616 on: April 16, 2018, 04:38:27 pm »
Mr Hanky is not promoting more poo into the ocean....    he’s the mascot to protest against pumping raw sewage.  In other words, there are plenty of protests and opposition to pumping raw sewage.   If you didn’t know that, and you live in BC, then you’ve been living under a rock maybe....?

No opposition from governments though. Municipal, provincial or federal.
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« Reply #617 on: April 16, 2018, 06:08:43 pm »
I started typing this yesterday and then decided against posting it.  If someone really can't tell why poop and bitumen are different there is really no use arguing.

I think we can all tell that they're different kinds of pollution. And I think we can also all tell what raging hypocrites people are who have no problem filling their rivers with **** but complain about the 'possibility' that oil might leak, or for that matter, have no problem tearing your mountains apart and exporting coal while sobbing about CO2 and global warming coming from oil.
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« Reply #618 on: April 16, 2018, 06:09:35 pm »
I want to put a railroad beside your bedroom, but you get zero because it is not your property I am expropriating.

Are you Nine?  ::)
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« Reply #619 on: April 16, 2018, 07:07:39 pm »
Are you Nine?  ::)

I like to play with trains.
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« Reply #621 on: April 16, 2018, 11:58:16 pm »
Your move John.

https://biv.com/article/2018/04/alberta-introduces-bill-restrict-oil-gas-exports

I'm sure this'll calm Kinder Morgan's nerves about Canada being a level-headed country to do business in. 

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« Reply #622 on: April 17, 2018, 09:11:54 am »
They want to get more bitumen to export... shipping more bitumen and less refined product through the existing pipeline would be one way to do that.

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« Reply #623 on: April 17, 2018, 09:30:44 am »
They want to get more bitumen to export... shipping more bitumen and less refined product through the existing pipeline would be one way to do that.

satisfying it's BigOil overlords and favouring export/Asian countries over British Columbian's seems like a sure-fire approach to "winning" the hearts/minds of BC residents...

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« Reply #624 on: April 17, 2018, 09:44:41 am »
If it does happen, Horgan might be pointing his finger at Alberta, but his political opponents are already making the case that this whole standoff has been precipitated by Horgan himself.

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« Reply #625 on: April 17, 2018, 09:48:36 am »
I'm sure this'll calm Kinder Morgan's nerves about Canada being a level-headed country to do business in.

I think any illusions about Canada being a level headed country to do business went up in smoke a while ago and KM is out over a billion dollars to prove it.
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« Reply #626 on: April 17, 2018, 09:53:19 am »
Oh yeah...

https://www.desmog.ca/2017/04/17/b-c-quietly-grants-mount-polley-mine-permit-pipe-mine-waste-directly-quesnel-lake

https://www.wltribune.com/news/quesnel-lake-water-quality-improving-with-time/

Just a few years ago the valley communities had to fight tooth and nail against a GVRD plan to incinerate it’s garbage. They weren’t too concerned about polution they send other people’s way.
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« Reply #627 on: April 17, 2018, 09:59:31 am »
If it does happen, Horgan might be pointing his finger at Alberta, but his political opponents are already making the case that this whole standoff has been precipitated by Horgan himself.

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BC is divided on this issue, Alberta isn’t. Horgan could find himself representing only the GVRD and Vancouver Island even more than he is already.
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« Reply #628 on: April 17, 2018, 10:33:23 am »
BC is divided on this issue, Alberta isn’t. Horgan could find himself representing only the GVRD and Vancouver Island even more than he is already.

Yeah, I think Horgan is making a mistake here.  I am, personally, ok wth paying more for gas if there is a clear path to other alternatives for affordable transportation but I don't see that.  Even if Horgan wins this battle, he will lose the war.  I am surprised neither he nor Weaver seem to get that.    It's too bad too, because some of the other stuff they've done I really like and I would prefer not to have the Liberals back in.

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« Reply #629 on: April 17, 2018, 11:07:39 am »
I think any illusions about Canada being a level headed country to do business went up in smoke a while ago and KM is out over a billion dollars to prove it.

You're not refuting anything.  I'm saying this does not help the existing trepidation on the part of KM, I never blamed Alberta for the trepidation.  Obviously Alberta wants the pipeline.

And I'm not sure if you noticed, but BC's government changed hands during the time KM spent that billion dollars.