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Offline Omni

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« Reply #525 on: April 11, 2018, 09:19:21 pm »
Everything you consume comes to you by something that uses fossil fuels. See if you can do without them while you develop those alternatives.

I consume a lot of air everyday and I would prefer it not to be sludged with carcinogens from fossil fuels.

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« Reply #526 on: April 11, 2018, 09:23:15 pm »
I consume a lot of air everyday and I would prefer it not to be sludged with carcinogens from fossil fuels.

You also burn then to make your living.
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« Reply #527 on: April 11, 2018, 09:28:20 pm »
You also burn then to make your living.

True enough. I probably have a carbon footprint that would dwarf most. That doesn't mean I don't want deter alternate options that are healthier. And of course the last gallon of jet fuel might not be all that far away. Planning ahead is smart n'est pas?

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« Reply #528 on: April 11, 2018, 09:36:09 pm »
Albertans seem to be very much in the mood for a jihad, and the politicians are on the same page...
Notley: "We're drafting legislation to 'turn off the tap' on BC."

Kenney: "That's great, but we should ask the feds to withhold transfer payments to BC if they won't cooperate. They did it to Saskatchewan..."

Notley: "That's a good one too. I'll mention it to Justin."

Fildebrandt: "Hey, can we require mandatory vehicle inspections on semis entering the province from BC? Can we futz with the trains?"

Notley: "We'll look into that..."


Meanwhile in BC, the opposition is doing their best to make sure that if/when Alberta retaliates, voters know that it's Horgan's fault.

If an election were held tomorrow, would John Horgan repeat as premier?  If an election were held after gas hits $2 a liter, would Horgan repeat as premier?



I have mixed feelings on this. I know that this is going to cost me money.  On the other hand, watching that smug ass get an anvil dropped on his head is going to be worth it. I am going to just make some popcorn and enjoy the show.

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Re: The Wreck of BC
« Reply #529 on: April 11, 2018, 09:43:27 pm »
True enough. I probably have a carbon footprint that would dwarf most. That doesn't mean I don't want deter alternate options that are healthier. And of course the last gallon of jet fuel might not be all that far away. Planning ahead is smart n'est pas?

Oh I agree and I can see an electric or hybrid vehicle in my future but the idea we can just dispense with fossil fuels while we develop alternatives is ludicrous. In fact I don't believe we will be able to get rid of them entirely for a long long time.
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« Reply #530 on: April 11, 2018, 09:53:47 pm »
Oh I agree and I can see an electric or hybrid vehicle in my future but the idea we can just dispense with fossil fuels while we develop alternatives is ludicrous. In fact I don't believe we will be able to get rid of them entirely for a long long time.

And to ignore the fact there is an end to fossil fuels is ludicrous. we made a major step from horse drawn carriages to gas fired vehicles and now we have another step to make. Of course we can't do it overnight, but I am in the corner who thinks we should get it together sonner rather than later.

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« Reply #531 on: April 11, 2018, 09:56:31 pm »
Oh I agree and I can see an electric or hybrid vehicle in my future but the idea we can just dispense with fossil fuels while we develop alternatives is ludicrous. In fact I don't believe we will be able to get rid of them entirely for a long long time.

You don't see the solar-powered bulldozers and wind-powered cranes at Vancouver construction sites?  The sail-powered container-carriers coming and going from Burrard Inlet?  The pedal-powered trains carrying Vancouver freight eastward?

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« Reply #532 on: April 11, 2018, 10:00:48 pm »
You don't see the solar-powered bulldozers and wind-powered cranes at Vancouver construction sites?  The sail-powered container-carriers coming and going from Burrard Inlet?  The pedal-powered trains carrying Vancouver freight eastward?

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Go to Scotland and suck a little coal smoke up your nose and get back to us.

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« Reply #533 on: April 11, 2018, 10:04:53 pm »
Go to Scotland and suck a little coal smoke up your nose and get back to us.

Just drive to Vancouver in the summer.  It gets you somewhere between Hope and Chilliwack.

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« Reply #534 on: April 11, 2018, 10:12:05 pm »
Just drive to Vancouver in the summer.  It gets you somewhere between Hope and Chilliwack.

I live on the island so I don't go through Hope to get to YVR, although I did drive through those places when I came from the east many year ago.

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« Reply #535 on: April 11, 2018, 10:13:47 pm »
Go to Scotland and suck a little coal smoke up your nose and get back to us.

When I lived in Victoria, I recall hiking to the top of Mount Douglas, looking east, and looking at the sepia haze globe that indicated the  location of Greater Vancouver.  I know full well the degree of air-pollution that afflicts the area. That sepia haze is the result of human activity, human activity that a great many people depend on for their livelihood. If living without that sepia haze was so easy, it would have happened already.  Why don't they already have wind-powered cranes and solar-powered bulldozers building Premier Horgan's affordable housing?

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« Reply #536 on: April 11, 2018, 10:46:37 pm »
When I lived in Victoria, I recall hiking to the top of Mount Douglas, looking east, and looking at the sepia haze globe that indicated the  location of Greater Vancouver.  I know full well the degree of air-pollution that afflicts the area. That sepia haze is the result of human activity, human activity that a great many people depend on for their livelihood. If living without that sepia haze was so easy, it would have happened already.  Why don't they already have wind-powered cranes and solar-powered bulldozers building Premier Horgan's affordable housing?

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Flying to the moon wasn't "easy" but it was done. I t just took focus. Why not focus on cleaning up that "sepia haze"?

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« Reply #537 on: April 11, 2018, 10:47:30 pm »
Flying to the moon wasn't "easy" but it was done. I t just took focus. Why not focus on cleaning up that "sepia haze"?

Go ahead and do that.  Ms Notley's going to help.

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« Reply #538 on: April 11, 2018, 10:58:51 pm »
Trudeau would be smart to stop backing lame-duck Notley and the oily province and concentrate on the parts of Canada that may actually vote for him.

I think Kenney is right, Trudeau may be stalling on purpose.  He knows where the votes are.

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« Reply #539 on: April 11, 2018, 11:18:20 pm »
Trudeau would be smart to stop backing lame-duck Notley and the oily province and concentrate on the parts of Canada that may actually vote for him.

I think Kenney is right, Trudeau may be stalling on purpose.  He knows where the votes are.

Vancouver is really the only place where Horgan's stance is very popular.  Most of the province outside Vancouver isn't even on board with Horgan. Saskatchewan is also backing Alberta, and the rest of Canada understands that even if they don't exactly love oily Alberta, there are still billions of dollars of tax revenue at stake here.

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