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« Reply #255 on: March 24, 2018, 11:17:46 pm »
Comparing self-absorbed and hypocritical anti-pipeline protesters toe MLK and Ghandi is an insult to the legacy of those men.
Oh, so then not all protesters who see getting arrested as a badge of honour. Just some of them that you don't like.
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« Reply #256 on: March 25, 2018, 09:41:18 am »
Although I disagree with the protesters objectives I appreciate that we live in a society that has the freedom and tolerance to allow such protests.

Now if only Horgan can show respect for our laws and allow the TMX to go through.

In the meantime, if he thinks I’m impressed by his sellout to LNG he’s wrong: to give PST breaks to one particular business and to force me to pay a carbon tax divorced from revenue neutrality as announced in their first budget in 2017 is quite a stretch.

Years from now we could be paying carbon tax while our largest emitter pays a minimium base amount.

Strange environmentalism from our Premier.
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« Reply #257 on: March 25, 2018, 04:49:36 pm »
So why act like it's been forever since a new one was approved when you have no idea how long it has been?

80% of BC pipelines are natural gas. This 15 km fuel pipeline to replace one built in 1948 was delayed 7 years and had its cost doubled.
https://biv.com/article/2017/06/new-150-million-jet-fuel-pipeline-project-underway

The existing Transmountain pipeline was approved in 1947 and finished in 1951.
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« Reply #258 on: March 25, 2018, 05:24:58 pm »
Oh, so then not all protesters who see getting arrested as a badge of honour. Just some of them that you don't like.
There is a huge difference between people on the losing side of a complex political trade off refusing to accept the outcome of the legal process and people fighting for rights denied to them. The protestors had more than adequate opportunities to contribute to process and have no business engaging in illegal actions to block a decision that did not go their way.

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« Reply #259 on: March 25, 2018, 06:21:39 pm »
people on the losing side of a complex political trade off refusing to accept the outcome of the legal process
You mean like whining about abortion, complaining about trans rights, arguing for the death penalty, protesting Khadr's right to live free, or claiming that the judiciary is filled with "activist" judges?

First I've seen you complain about it, but, hey...good for you for coming to your senses.
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« Reply #260 on: March 25, 2018, 06:44:32 pm »
You mean like whining about abortion, complaining about trans rights, arguing for the death penalty, protesting Khadr's right to live free, or claiming that the judiciary is filled with "activist" judges?
You can't seem to understand the difference between protesting a decision and *deliberately violating a court order*. This kind of stuff should not have to be explained.
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« Reply #261 on: March 25, 2018, 09:32:16 pm »
No change would ever take place if someone didn't challenge the status quo.  The difference is conservatives resist change, not status quo, so there is very little in terms of comparison when it comes to court orders to ignore (ie trans rights etc).

Nevertheless, that doesn't stop the right from not accepting a situation once things evolve.  In that you are being completely hypocritical.
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« Reply #262 on: March 25, 2018, 10:03:39 pm »
No change would ever take place if someone didn't challenge the status quo.  The difference is conservatives resist change, not status quo, so there is very little in terms of comparison when it comes to court orders to ignore (ie trans rights etc).

Nevertheless, that doesn't stop the right from not accepting a situation once things evolve.  In that you are being completely hypocritical.

What does rule of law have to do with right and left? Explain.
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« Reply #263 on: March 25, 2018, 11:06:05 pm »
What does rule of law have to do with right and left? Explain.

I already did.

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« Reply #264 on: March 25, 2018, 11:16:58 pm »
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« Reply #265 on: March 26, 2018, 01:12:14 pm »
Nope, you’re starting to sound like waldo.

why I oughta... look... get over it! I quoted your words... exactly as you wrote them (on the other POS board)  ;D Besides, I'm confused why you wouldn't embrace them now as they clearly show you have little to no restrictions in "getting to tidewater"!

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« Reply #266 on: March 26, 2018, 04:41:01 pm »
why I oughta... look... get over it! I quoted your words... exactly as you wrote them (on the other POS board)  ;D Besides, I'm confused why you wouldn't embrace them now as they clearly show you have little to no restrictions in "getting to tidewater"!




Well I could be an A hole and quote you out of context on all kinds of things but I won't. However, since you won't reference the entire post, you can cram it.

FYI, tanker in the Straight of Juan de Fuca are limited to 125K tons by the Americans as well. So double cram it.
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« Reply #267 on: March 27, 2018, 04:49:06 am »
Well I could be an A hole and quote you out of context on all kinds of things but I won't. However, since you won't reference the entire post, you can cram it.

FYI, tanker in the Straight of Juan de Fuca are limited to 125K tons by the Americans as well. So double cram it.

wait, what! I gave you the context - twice (initial post and subsequent); specifically in regards, "initial suggestions/fore-warnings of a possible intent to also include the suezmax class {typically 175K DWT} ... requiring berthing and channel dredging of Burrard Inlet and 1st/2nd narrows".

if you don't believe that to be the context, or 'proper context', please feel free to state/show your statement (that I precisely quoted) in the context you wish to maintain - please proceed, Governor! But again, where's your beef in, relatively speaking, not embracing, again, "little to no restrictions in getting to tidewater"?

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« Reply #268 on: March 27, 2018, 09:09:52 am »
If you can’t be honest enough to give the post reference I am not discussing anything with you.
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« Reply #269 on: March 27, 2018, 10:54:02 am »
The project isn’t good enough as planned, so BC is looking out for its interests.  Why should BC look out for Albertan interests when all the risks are in BC?   No thanks.

The risks are tiny. As you point out, there are pipelines all over the place.
As for the coast, that's not BC's, it's Canada's.
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