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Offline MH

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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2019, 09:02:38 am »
What do you mean dump May? Yes, she is not the most inspiring leader in Canadian political history but there are many far less inspiring that have lead other parties and even became Prime Minister.

Including and especially our current 'big 3'
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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2019, 11:26:16 am »
encouraging, yes - but they'll go nowhere federally until they dump May
May is not the typical party leader we're used to.
She doesn't 'play' politics. She doesn't get upset, or try to upset others with 'low blows'.
She is intelligent, well-informed and speaks calmly and truthfully.

She is the kind of leader we need, and in my experience, so are other Green candidates.

We're at a point where the vicious shenanigans in the House of Commons are offensive to most decent Canadians, where schoolchildren easily identify politicians behaviour as bullying, insults and demeaning others and teachers are reluctant to take kids to parliament because of the bad example set by MP's.

Elizabeth May and the Green Party are a breath of fresh air. We need more of that.

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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2019, 12:18:13 pm »
May is not the typical party leader we're used to.
She doesn't 'play' politics. She doesn't get upset, or try to upset others with 'low blows'.
She is intelligent, well-informed and speaks calmly and truthfully.

She is the kind of leader we need, and in my experience, so are other Green candidates.

We're at a point where the vicious shenanigans in the House of Commons are offensive to most decent Canadians, where schoolchildren easily identify politicians behaviour as bullying, insults and demeaning others and teachers are reluctant to take kids to parliament because of the bad example set by MP's.

Elizabeth May and the Green Party are a breath of fresh air. We need more of that.

no - in terms of climate science she's been found wanting several times. My suggestion to "dump" was more in line with her failings to move the 'Green Party needle' beyond her small BC enclave - despite running a full complement of candidates, no "break-through" anywhere else. Given the shallow pool of personality that drives most of the typical un/ill-informed citizenry, May is not the face of a party needing a leader to bring the Green Party forward as a national political force.

I've some familiarity with the scientific background of Andrew Weaver, and believe he's learning how to politically maneuver the Green Party into the next levels; see the coalition play even if that somewhat separated him from the BC Green Party proper. In any case, he's the type of person/leader I would look toward to move Greens forward federally - certainly not May!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOeKBMd1A70

and another perspective; not necessarily one I share fully: How Elizabeth May taught conservatives never to trust green activists

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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2019, 12:44:15 pm »
I've some familiarity with the scientific background of Andrew Weaver, and believe he's learning how to politically maneuver the Green Party into the next levels

The resume on the first part sounds good. I would like to see more about the second. Success in politics is about many things. While May not have the most scientific background, and certainly needs help in inspiring others, we should not overlook her legal experience and long background in the Canadian political process. She spent many years involved in Parliament, long before she became an MP.

While the GPC is relatively new compared to the Liberals and the NDP (not sure how old we consider the CPC), May is actually the eighth (full time, there was also an interim one) leader. The party holds leadership elections every four years, and if general elections remain on a four year schedule then it will be about 18 months before the general election. May was first elected in 2006, so this is her fourth term. I don't believe she was challenged in 2018, but I didn't look at that level of detail in the 2018 conference. I haven't heard about term limits in the party, but I don't think any of the major parties have them.

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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2019, 05:28:31 pm »
Being shit-faced and making stupid comments at an event doesn't show great leadership.   

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« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2019, 08:40:26 pm »
Being shit-faced and making stupid comments at an event doesn't show great leadership.

Hell, ya, like none of us have ever done that!  ;D

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« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2019, 09:15:43 pm »
no - in terms of climate science she's been found wanting several times. My suggestion to "dump" was more in line with her failings to move the 'Green Party needle' beyond her small BC enclave - despite running a full complement of candidates, no "break-through" anywhere else. Given the shallow pool of personality that drives most of the typical un/ill-informed citizenry, May is not the face of a party needing a leader to bring the Green Party forward as a national political force.

I've some familiarity with the scientific background of Andrew Weaver, and believe he's learning how to politically maneuver the Green Party into the next levels; see the coalition play even if that somewhat separated him from the BC Green Party proper. In any case, he's the type of person/leader I would look toward to move Greens forward federally - certainly not May!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOeKBMd1A70

and another perspective; not necessarily one I share fully: How Elizabeth May taught conservatives never to trust green activists

Trying to find a home for Mother's Green Earth among Conservatives and Liberals clearly didn't work.
Because our extraction economy doesn't work in the long run.
Make no mistake: Greens are all about business,
green business.