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  Not sure the legal ramifications if any, but the guy is a creep.

And hence, he's gone.  "They elected a creep as the party leader, Ma, and we all are so excited to vote for him !" said nobody at any time ever.

They don't even elect ugly people.

I would be willing to participate in a 'confessions' thread if others would also.  I'll even go first.  This would be to show my lack of virtuosity in this topic.

Any social psychologist would flatly contradict you. We are bound by our instincts to a far greater degree than we really understand.

Maybe. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_desire#Theoretical_perspectives

That being said, sociocultural influences may push males and females into gender-specific roles where the use of social scripts dictating the appropriate feelings and responses to desire and activity are expected. This may lead to conflict where an individual’s wants may be unfulfilled due to the anticipated social consequences of their actions, causing frustration. Some theorists suggest that the experience of sexual desire may be socially constructed. However, some argue that although sociocultural factors are very influential over the experience of sexual desire, they don’t play a large role until after biological initially influences desire.[9] Another view is that sexual desire is neither a social construction[14] nor a biological drive.[15] According to James Giles, it is rather an existential need that is based on the sense of incompleteness that arises from the experience of being gendered.[13]

It doesn't seem to be conclusive, from that excerpt.

My my.  Look at the length of this post !  Not sure why you have focussed on me here, but I have some time to try and parse this response.  Lets see:

I think we have already said Brown didn't commit sexual assault.  This is about the cost of inappropriate behaviour.  The public will decide what is a private matter.

Well you modified your description of me to the former.  I have admitted inappropriate behaviour so I don't claim virtuosity in the regard of male behaviour.

That is what he did.  It says nothing about my virtuosity to describe his actions.

That's the allegation.  I am willing to hear his response.  Also I didn't say he forced them to drink. 

Yes, you are putting your **** words in my mouth.  Keep bellowing, though.  It won't change what I did.

I didn't judge Brown, I spoke only of the politics.  I am not turning you into the devil.  You are more like the Tasmanian Devil.

Agreed on the last sentence. 

Not sure why you are whirling about.  I speak to the politics and my 'smug' phrasing is simply how Brown behaved, if given a spin to illustrate how it would appear to the morally righteous.

It only took me 10 minutes to respond to this, and that's not bad.  Let's see if you come back with an even longer post claiming all the same things over and over again.

Tasmanian Devil! Lol. Weird Tasmanian devil. Ahah.

In regards to your first sentence, you've said a lot of things and of course you continue to judge Brown. Your memory as to what you said seems to be defective.  Here let me feed it back to you yet again:

"Nowhere did I "**** on brown".  I stated what he did: showed off his dick to an underaged intoxicated teenager that he got drunk."

You keep deny pissing on Brown and in the above sentence you deny pissing on him, then **** on him in the very next sentence.  Why do you deny your pissing problem? I find it hilarious. You are lecturing that Brown inappropriately flashed his dick while denying you are out of control not just flashing yours but peeing on Brown as well. Lol

Also relax. Don't hide behind the word  "we" when responding to me. If you are that frightened of me you need to turn yourself into a plural to make you sound more credible you  need to relax man. You don't need to hide in a pack for protection to debate me. Lol. 

Also may I  again kindly remind you that what you define as inappropriate behaviour or for that matter  what your round table of penises in shining armour feel about properly exposed penises means nothing to me.

As far as I am concerned you and "we" done nothing but expose your collective peckers from the moment you started responding on this thread to **** on Brown. You've been pissing away ever since and from my  vantage point you aint making that big a splash.

So I modified my description of you?  Uh no. I didn't modify anything. If you can't understand what self righteous and righteous mean I gave you the definitions. If you still have problems let me know if the splash analogy has helped.

Now can you  stop with the denials. Get real Of course  you spoke and continue to speak of your virtuousity as well as continuing to  morally judge Brown. It oozes in each word you  emit about him.  That shtick where you engaged in confessional on this forum to mount the rationalization for judging Brown-I mean that was weird.  As I understand it, you claim you can judge Brown because you have confessed and so that magically absolves you no of morally judging Brown as you continue to morally judge him. Uh yah. So you can lynch people  once you make a confessional. That's quite the religion you have.

Speaking about Tasmanian Devil  are you so sure the Satan you see in Brown is not just your own reflection projected on him ? Oh come on now. I have sat down to talk with Satan many times. Its called Self-reflection MH.  Some of us panic when we realize Satan is a self-reflection  and so we project it on to others and into detached entities trying to rid ourselves of it from within.

Was that last  reference to Tasmanian Devil for you man?

When you spend many  many years locked in rooms with violent sex offenders and abusers MH like social workers, nurses, doctors, prison guards, lawyers, police have done, we will tell you we see not just demons but pieces of ourselves in those demons and we have to learn how to sort that out MH or we end up useless. What we learned is morally judging others is just an excuse an individual uses for not coming to grips with their own inner demons. The tatoos, the steroids to make muscles, the gold teeth, the growls, the lunges, the biting, its all the acts of a frightened individual scared of their own shadow. They kill and beat and **** others because they are deathly afraid of what they see in a mirror. They think if they project it onto their victim and extinguish the victim, it goes away only it does not, it just gets stronger and bigger with each **** or kill.

Transference and counter-transference is what call it when we realize the demons in the room are reflecting back ugly reflections of ourselves and we quickly have to compartmentalize that so we can focus. Its not about  moral  judgement. See you see Brown as a bad man to crucify. He's your Satan, not mine. Satan to me exists in every life form its just one of many relative states between the polarized opposites. Moral judgement wont t contain negative energy or behaviour- it  just spreads it.  Acknowledging evil or negative behaviour is an inherent trait we all have is the first step.  The next step is by learning that evil and good begins and ends in each of us with the choices we make as individuals  as to how we will behave.

Of course we are all gatekeepers. Each one of us is the gatekeeper of our own heaven and hell so to speak. This crap where Brown is evil and needs to be punished is a crock of ****.

You think he's Satan, not me.

You cast that judgement. Pretending you didn't at this point in the thread is stupid.

People eat themselves whole not Satan.

You think Brown was inappropriate right. Get back to me when you've had to sit and listen to a mad man who eats people rant at you. Hah.

Right.  From the guy who purports to know what women in hijabs think and feel, what progressives think and what they'll do, and all about women's sexual interest.  At least I keep my "mind reading" limited to a single person and based on his own words.   Thats gotta be better than mind reading entire swaths of people about whom I know nothing other than their gender, political leanings or an item of clothing they choose to wear.

Dia go  back and read the above. Its precisely what you are doing with and to Brown.

In regards to your first sentence, you've said a lot of things. Your memory as to what you said seems to be defective.  Also don't hide behind the word  "we". If you are that frightened of me you need to turn yourself into a plural to make you sound more credible knock off the pack behaviour. You don't need to hide in a back to debate me.

We = you and me.  ie. I agree.  No assault.

What you define as inappropriate behaviour or for that matter your round table of properly exposed penises define, means nothing to me. As far as I am concerned you've done nothing but expose your collective peckers from the moment you started writing on this thread. You've been pointing ever since and from my angle you've come up very short. In fact its clear your contributions as to penises and when they should be exposed means very little.  Zip over both your heads.

Inscrutable.  Inscrotable.

Well I modified my description of you? What does that mean? Do you even know?  I didn't modify anything. You can't understand what self righteous and righteous mean. They are not different in how they were being used to describe your words. They still aren't. Modified. Right.

Agreed.  Right.

Of course spoke and continue to speak of your virtuousity and continue to morally judge Brown. It oozes in each word you  emit about him. You engaged in confessional on this forum to mount the rationalization for judging Brown. In fact you claim you can judge him because you have sinned and said you sinned. There you go. You can lynch people  once you make confessional. Good for you. That's quite the religion you have.

As predicted, you continue to chase your tail ignoring my words.

Read it back genius.

Agreed.  Genius.

Look either sit on the Pope's throne or  retire like Benedict. I suggest the latter.  Then again the current as is the case with the former Pope like you doesn't seem to want to confront his demons.

Anti-Catholic rhetoric.

You so sure the Satan you see in Brown is not just your own reflection projected on him hmmmm? Oh come on now. I have sat down to talk with Satan many times. Self reflection MH. We all do it. It clearly scares you.

Was that last one too weird for you man?

Raging senility.  Paranoid focus on me.  Inability to accept facts.

I can call Brown a "****-showing alcohol-giver" because that's what he is.  You infer judgment and moralism, well that's because you are the puritan.  I guess you are too snow-white to ever have done anything bad.  This is called 'projection' by psychiatrists.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/traversing-the-inner-terrain/201304/projection-and-identity

n the last blog we said the following, which will be a launching for what must be said next:

It’s time to consider the possibility that there is a self—a part of us that is real, unique and essentially us—which can be seen as distinct from what we’ve incorporated as identity based on others projections, rejections, actions and reactions towards us. And if that is true, how much of you is really authentic self, and how much is identity?

In following up on that, as I promised to do, we have to look at those projections, rejections, actions and reactions and how they become identity—an identity that is NOT who we actually are.

We'll start with projection. Projection is just what it sounds like. Imagine the old design of the movie projector in which the film was passed over the light, sending the image on the film to a projecting lens, which then reflected that image onto a screen.

That’s exactly how it works psychologically. Some issue has been pushed into the unconscious. But that issue has energy and is constantly looking for release from its prison in the unconscious. So, it projects it through the lenses of the eye—a convex psychological eye that can only look at the external world rather than the internal one—and the issue is suddenly seen in someone else.

The problem is that when people project their “stuff” onto us, they tend to act as if their projection has something to do with who we really are. They treat us, in other words, as if their projection were valid. And, particularly if we are vulnerable, we tend to believe that perhaps they are describing something real about us—something that we may not even be able to see.

This is when I hear clients say, “They say I’m … and I guess I am.” Particularly when these projections come from significant family members, we tend to be so vulnerable to their influence, and they tend to repeat their projective words so frequently that it becomes very difficult for us to believe that what they are saying is not true.

A father, who grew up feeling as if he could never really establish himself in comparison to his peers who got ahead rapidly while he stayed home and got soused might quite easily tell his son that “you are going to amount to a big, fat nothing.” This is clearly projection, for it is the father who feels like a nothing, but he cannot allow himself to really sit with, receive and do something about that feeling, so he just hands it over to his son. The son, having heard this several times from a father he love desperately and wants terribly to please, takes this projection on as identity and begins to act on it as if it fully describes him.

This is just one example of many regarding the business of projection, but it clearly demonstrates how we formulate a sense of ourselves from other people’s stuff. The father could just as easily need to see the son as the golden boy he never got to be.  But if the son could somehow see that this really has nothing whatsoever to do with him, but is rather all about how the father feels about himself, he would not incorporate it into his identity and would not begin to act as if it were so. But typically children cannot make those assessments.

Every now and then, however, as clinicians we run into children who somehow just know that Dad is wrong—that he’s telling them stuff that isn’t true. They may be really mad at him or even hate him. And this anger or hatred, while most would say a child should not be so angry or hate a parent, might just save the child’s life—or at least her sense of self.

But the truth is that it is not uncommon at all for parents to project their own unresolved issues onto their children without even knowing it, because projections are largely unconscious impulses. But as we become adults it is possible to look back over our childhoods and begin to see how we took on these projections—simply because by now we can see our parents clearer.

SJ, Kimmy and now you are so busy trying to blame the women

Blame for what, exactly? Giving a guy a hummer?  I don't think she needs to be blamed or feel embarrassed ir guilty or anything.

 -k