Author Topic: Patrick Brown #MeToo  (Read 3946 times)

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« Reply #165 on: February 08, 2018, 02:09:52 pm »
Champion of the rights of women and the LGBTQ community, arbiter of immigration, right here.

And he's standing up for **** guys, whom we should just expect to behave in stupid, clumsy ways and to wheedle/force sex on women whenever they can.   Women need to modify theor behavior because men are just too **** to do do. 

Well, except for men who are from a "goatherding" country.  In that case this "natural" behavior of **** men is barbaric and those poor women are subject to an oppressive and misogynist culture.

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« Reply #166 on: February 08, 2018, 02:26:26 pm »
The problem women have is they are the gate-keepers for sex, and men want sex all the time. That means nothing will stop (heterosexual)men trying to persuade, seduce, influence, put pressure on, whine, beg, bribe, or otherwise seek to get women to let them in.

Until they get those super realistic robot sex dollars, of course...

Yet again you presume to speak for an entire group of people with what is obviously simply your own opinion. I don't know what group of hetero men you associate with and I won't go down your rabbit hole by trying to speak for the ones I know, but if I did I would have a very different opinion. I can speak for myself though, and can tell you that I have never had to pressure, or whine, or beg or otherwise...whatever you had in mind there, to have had some very enjoyable relationships over the years. Maybe that's why I seem to have a more positive approach to the subject.

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« Reply #167 on: February 08, 2018, 02:29:03 pm »
Champion of the rights of women and the LGBTQ community, arbiter of immigration, right here.

Did I say something which was wrong or which you care to dispute?
"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won't do." David Frum

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« Reply #168 on: February 08, 2018, 02:30:55 pm »

Men should be able to control themselves rather than expecting women to.

I'm not disputing that.
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« Reply #169 on: February 08, 2018, 02:32:06 pm »
And he's standing up for **** guys, whom we should just expect to behave in stupid, clumsy ways and to wheedle/force sex on women whenever they can.   Women need to modify theor behavior because men are just too **** to do do. 

Well, except for men who are from a "goatherding" country.  In that case this "natural" behavior of **** men is barbaric and those poor women are subject to an oppressive and misogynist culture.

Jesus God, sometimes you're just about as dumb as one of those **** goats.
Don't pretend to interpret what I've said with anything approaching reality since your beliefs are so divorced from it.
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« Reply #170 on: February 08, 2018, 02:34:01 pm »
Yet again you presume to speak for an entire group of people with what is obviously simply your own opinion. I don't know what group of hetero men you associate with and I won't go down your rabbit hole by trying to speak for the ones I know, but if I did I would have a very different opinion. I can speak for myself though, and can tell you that I have never had to pressure, or whine, or beg or otherwise...whatever you had in mind there, to have had some very enjoyable relationships over the years. Maybe that's why I seem to have a more positive approach to the subject.

Yes, yes, we know you stride the earth like a God of all that is noble, holy and perfect. Why, the sun itself radiates out of your ass and flowers fall at your feet as you walk down the sidewalk. The wind itself sings in joy at being permitted to waft across your upturned nose.

"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won't do." David Frum

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« Reply #171 on: February 08, 2018, 02:36:34 pm »
Yes, yes, we know you stride the earth like a God of all that is noble, holy and perfect. Why, the sun itself radiates out of your ass and flowers fall at your feet as you walk down the sidewalk. The wind itself sings in joy at being permitted to waft across your upturned nose.

Once again you get a little ticklish when you get refuted. Nothing new here.

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« Reply #172 on: February 08, 2018, 02:39:46 pm »
I'm not disputing that.

You seem to be with your drivel about bribing, pressuring, whining, (when did you ever have to whine for sex, on second thought forget I asked that, don't wanna know) as though it's just normal man stuff.

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« Reply #173 on: February 08, 2018, 03:01:31 pm »
I'm not disputing that.

Other than downplaying the bad sexual behavior of men by claiming its their "nature" and declaring that its women's nature to 'control' male sexual behavior...or expect the worst.

Average stupid religious leader;
Men are hornier and more violent than women
Women need to dress and behave modestly so they don't attract the sexual attention of men.   If a woman is subjected to unwanted sexual attention, she must take responsibilty for her part, whether its her dress, how she behaves or where she went.  Oh, yes, the man is bad too ... But what do you expect, given man's nature?

Average stupid middle aged Westerner:
Men are hornier and more violent than women.
Women should expect men to be **** and potentially violent and deal with it.  If a woman is subjected to unwanted sexual attention, she must take reaponsibilty for her part, whether its her dress, how she behaved or where she went.  Oh, yes, the man is bad too ... But what do you expect, given man's nature?

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #174 on: February 08, 2018, 03:05:16 pm »
Jesus God, sometimes you're just about as dumb as one of those **** goats.
Don't pretend to interpret what I've said with anything approaching reality since your beliefs are so divorced from it.

Perhaps the problem is in what you are saying.   Ever think of that?   Oh, of course not .... you are convinced that you are a God of all that is noble, holy and perfect. Why, the sun itself radiates out of your ass and flowers fall at your feet as you walk down the sidewalk. The wind itself sings in joy at being permitted to waft across your upturned nose.

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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #175 on: February 08, 2018, 04:44:27 pm »
Once again you get a little ticklish when you get refuted. Nothing new here.

You didn't 'refute' anything. You were just virtue signaling. You're probably just as much a creep as MH claims he is too, so quit wallowing in your own moral superiority.
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« Reply #176 on: February 08, 2018, 04:46:48 pm »
Other than downplaying the bad sexual behavior of men by claiming its their "nature" and declaring that its women's nature to 'control' male sexual behavior...or expect the worst.

I don't know if you've lived your entire life in a cave or just have no clue about how the world operates. But I talk about it the way it is, not the way I fantasize about it. And sure bad behavior is not to be excused, but it IS to be expected that some men WILL behave badly and that a lot of men will swerve back and forth across the line because they're not entirely sure where the line is. Especially since society keeps changing its location. And especially since judging the line requires judging the response of an individual they probably don't know very well.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2018, 04:52:06 pm by SirJohn »
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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #177 on: February 08, 2018, 04:48:27 pm »
Perhaps the problem is in what you are saying.   Ever think of that? 

If you question the veracity of what I'm saying about society then challenge it with logic or evidence, rather than making **** up about what you presume I meant.

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Oh, of course not .... you are convinced that you are a God of all that is noble, holy and perfect. Why, the sun itself radiates out of your ass and flowers fall at your feet as you walk down the sidewalk. The wind itself sings in joy at being permitted to waft across your upturned nose.

And learn to criticize without simply engaging in "I know you are, but what am I"
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Re: Patrick Brown #MeToo
« Reply #178 on: February 08, 2018, 04:52:52 pm »
Was it pretty much normal male behaviour at the time?

Yes but nothing you would want your sister to hear about.  But nobody would say anything either. 

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« Reply #179 on: February 08, 2018, 04:58:31 pm »
For example you don't see that whether you are a public or private figure, the standards of behaviour are no different. Your artificial distinction at this juncture in your righteous lectures is crap.

The standards are the same but the cost of accusations is great.

Once again you call me "righteous", although you dropped the "self-".  Here's my quote on myself once again for you:

"I could get called out for past behaviour, and I would admit it but I am not a public figure.  "

Now a RIGHTEOUS person would never admit they sinned, and would look down on sinners.  I just think you don't know what it means.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/righteous

"Free from guilt" = NOT ME


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But hey you now have confessed.

I did before also, and I pointed out after that that I had confessed.

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Hope that cleansed your soul and I hope pissing on Brown for behaviour no different than yours to make yourself feel better in your mind is justified by the above double standard.

Nowhere did I "**** on brown".  I stated what he did: showed off his dick to an underaged intoxicated teenager that he got drunk.  Those are just the facts, Lady Rue.  If you find that sentence morally reprehensible look inside yourself.  I wouldn't stop hanging around a friend who admitted that, as long as he admitted it and wasn't proud of it.  I have done things on that level and if somebody stated it I would feel rightly ashamed.